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Look, I know what he had done. He sacrificed his wife and daughter Nina as experiments for his alchemy. And yes, it is quite terrible, especially for poor Nina.
But though I admittedly hate him like you guys, I also cannot bring myself to imagine punching him in the face, even if he had abused her.
Because he is the most pathetic, useless, and pitiful “villain”, or should I say, antagonist, I have ever seen!
But don’t get me wrong, I am not that naive to believe that he “did not do anything wrong” or that his experiment on Nina is not all that bad. And for the record, I have “touched grass” to understand the context and why real-life mattered.
I know that, because I argued with the FMA Subreddit many times and got hated and mocked. And I don’t blame them.
And here are some reasons why I feel confused by your extreme hatred. But there are questions I ask of you guys to answer:
Question 1: Why do Hate How He Sacrificed Nina? Why was Nina so Dear to You All? And why use the statement “Hate Him Because He is Based Off Of Real Life”? And Why Call Him A “Child Abuser” in this Context?
Call me sick all you like, but the reason I do not pay attention to this thing or “real-life evil” is because newcomers like me only come here for the action of the series.
Great battles, superb action, and menacing supervillains like Envy, Lust, Greed, and Father.
It’s Why Many Like Me Do Not Find Hating Tucker A Cup Of Tea Because He is Just Normal Scummy Low-Life. No superpowers, no intelligence, no design that interests the eyes; he is literal trash, an uninteresting one at that.
And even with comparisons like Harry Potter’s Dolores Umbridge was not good for me, because I found out even Dolores herself proved to be as equally but uniquely threatening as Voldemor as not only was she as power-hungry as her, but also intelligent and cunning. She was a great mastermind villain, who was being racist because she wants a school with no races.
But Tucker, he has none!
Just why complain and say that you will never forgive him for hurting- No, killing Nina?
What made her so precious that Edward angrily punched him in the face while angrily punching him in the face?
And just what makes the idea of using his daughter as a test subject disgusting to you all?
Because sorry, I only come here for the action and fight scenes, not things like this.
And how is it child abuse? I fail to see Tucker as an abusive parent because, look at Precia Testarossa from Nanoha, she constantly whipped Fate over and over and over again and said that she hated her. That is what an abusive parent would be like; child abuse as is harming and hurting young children with weapons like whips.
Meanwhile, Tucker did not do such psychical violence or domestic violence to Nina, and only said like “doing something fun” which is tricking her into becoming a test subject for his chimera alchemy.
And how is that considered “child abuse” and an example of a “abusive parent” when Tucker did not show some kind of violence to Nina like how Precia did with Fate.
Heck, he even treated the Ninalexander hybrid as if it were his daughter Nina herself!
So I am left baffled and confused.
Speaking of which…
Question 2: Why Do You Act Like Edward Who Was Angry? Besides, Tucker Was Too Pathetic to Deserve Punches in The Face.
What did Ed mean exactly when he said Tucker was “no alchemist” when he is one, albeit an unethical and bad one. What was an alchemist according to Ed?
Why do you people love seeing Tucker suffer by being punched in the face? He is too useless; Alphonse even said that he would have died! So why do you love Ed punching this low-life?
He is too pathetic and useless to hurt anyone? Can’t you all let him go? And I coined that from Psychonauts.
And no matter how much you hate him, Tucker is like a Ed in how they first used alchemy, but while that is true, there are other facts that prevent Ed from becoming him.
Which brings me to number 3…
Question 3: His Ineptitude and Inability to Accept Reality
To newcomers, he is no psychopath, he is just a sociopath. Because he has shown to be quite shallow when he never understood why people like his higher ups and Ed were angry at his alchemy.
But, as I said, what made Ed and him different was that while they had no idea how to first use alchemy; Shou was more unethical and willing to sacrifice his former loved ones to escape poverty and earn money. But even then, there is a huge problem in his experiments and how he fails in his job.
I heard that State Alchemists should try to create something to support the country with the funds they had earned. But instead of making medicine or anything else, he thought it was a good idea to make a chimera with his family.
And you all know that the experiment failed horribly and miserably as the result were failed prototypes like Ninalexander and his poor wife.
These useless failures that were a waste of life had frail bodies that would die in short amounts of time, and had full amnesia of who they were. I mean, Nina was really hurting back there.
This shows that Tucker was stupid, inept, and short-sighted; qualities that prevent him from becoming an alchemist. And if this was what got him to hell, then I don’t blame Hiromu for this idea.
And this is one thing I am lost at, why is Tucker so inept and so detached from reality that he fails to understand why his superiors and Edward denied his Ninalexander Chimera and denied him.
There is a reason why he refuses to admit he did something wrong, he wants to prove to the world that he had made scientific progress, but it was a wrong kind of progress and because of his short-sightedness, missed the point of what alchemy should be about, philosophy and wisdom.
So I want to know more about his psychology of his sociopathy from you guys:
(A) Why did he give in to the insanity and become a sociopath and sacrifice his wife and Nina like that so easily? Why did he believe and give in to the idea that sacrifices are necessary for science? Because people like Senku from Dr. Stone would know otherwise.
(B) And why does he refuse to understand or admit why what he did was wrong due to wanting people to accept him? Because I noticed that form of ineptitude as he talks to Ninalexander as if it was still his daughter. And why was he unable to understand reality like knowing why people like Ed was angry at his ideas.
(C) What was his goal by using chimeras? It was too advanced and he had zero intelligence to pull it off as he made failed prototypes? How would those improve the country exactly?
Because anytime I wanted to try asking this like in Reddit, I only got denial by many.
Question 4: If You Want Other Good Examples of Evil Villains Who Are Like Him, I Got Good Ones
And no, I am not talking about Frieza or Cell, those are too advanced, I wanted at least evil scientists who did actions like what he did, but were better in intelligence, and being competent villains.
Dr. Neo Cortex (Crash Bandicoot) - Not only was he a goofy evil scientist who was mostly an imbecile when he fails, but also an effective villain for Crash. I mean, he was experimenting on animals to rule the world like a wombat and a bandicoot, the latter which failed and became an idiot.
Dr. Tenma (Astro Boy 2003) - I found this to be a better villain like Tucker, but knows to to be an effective villain for Astro. Of course, he was so obsessed with his late son Tobio, that he only saw Astro as an imitation, so he sold him to the robot circus. And in the 2003 Anime, he went on to make robots like his Assistant Shadow, to make other robots like Atlas and Pluto to make him the “king of the robots”.
Servantis (Ben 10: Omniverse) - This is a personal favorite, as the human and Cerebrocrustacean hybrid experimented on humans and aliens to create hybrids, amalgamations. He used Kevin as a conduit to live-graft and fuse humans with Alien DNA creating the Amalgam Kids, and members of his supposed kill squad like Agent Swift and Agent Leander to destroy the coming storm, Ben Tennyson and his Omnitrix. And he did by using his position as leader of the Black Ops Squad, The Rooters and Brainstorming Powers to Brainwash People Across the Universe to Believe that Kevin had a home planet that he had a father named, Devin Levin so that he can continue his experiments and plans in secret.
And look, for how terrible Shou Tucker is, I cannot hate him as much as you guys do because he is too useless and pathetic.
You say he is “evil scum”, but Shou Tucker is one of the most pathetic and useless evil I have ever seen!
And what do you mean by “Hate-Sink”? Is he a “Love-to-Hate” Villain? But what is there to love? He is a useless man with nothing to make him interesting and compelling.
Just a stupid and inept shell of a man, not to mention, a total sociopath.
So why go far for this hatred? Why hate things from real life exactly? Why would Hiromu Arakawa hate even her creation Shou Tucker? What exactly did she hate about him during creation? Are there any interviews that explain this?
I mean, I understand why Tucker was sent to the underworld of Hell; it’s his dark heart and ineptitude. Something I learned from Hiroyuki Takei’s Shaman King.
And Edward, you should have made a heroic speech to outcry his alchemy and that is why he is not an alchemist. I mean, you are Edward Elric, the greatest hero of Fullmetal Alchemist! You beat criminals like Kimblee and Scar! You faced saved the world against Father and battled his Homunculi children Greed, Wrath, Lust, Gluttony, Pride, and Envy, a personal favorite.
And you are despairing over a terrible father but also a useless, pathetic lowlife and shell of a man!? I know he took away and killed your best friend Nina like it was okay in an unethical manner, but is that the limit to your resolve against scumbags like him!?
You are a hero! A superhero!
Even Ben 10 and his Grandpa Max would give him a piece of his mind!
And said Ben 10 would tell you to stop punching his face because it would be crossing a line you would never come back from!
Sorry, but what is the context of this!? I only know flashy battle and action, so how does the “real-life” ideas and “personal” feelings of hatred towards Shou Tucker matter in the dark and mature world of Fullmetal Alchemist!
Edward should have known better! He faced many enemies! He should have given Tucker a piece of his mind, through words, not the fists!
But anyway, please explain to me why this hatred matters and please answer the additional questions I mentioned above.
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So I was confused if it was kimblee or someone else he got like wooden thing on his wrist to stop him from doing alchemist
Is this show kid-friendly enough to watch with my younger brother? Sexuality and suggestive content are my biggest concerns. Violence and some language are fine. to compare this to the other anime we watch, we watch (most) Studio Ghibli films and Demon Slayer.
Look, with all due respect, Shou Tucker is really the worst. I mean he sacrificed his family with no qualms nor regrets, and now that I am thinking about it, I can understand Edward and Alphonse’s anger.
And yes, I think every character would hate him. I mean, look at him, he is a shell of a man! His ethics are now gone, he is broken! Nothing but a laughing stock, a laughing stock.
And it’s no surprise to why he and his dark heart ended up in hell.
But what I made this for was so I can make objections because I have some confusions. But no, I am not defending him, because what is there to defend a scummy shell of a man?
Edward, what do you mean he is no alchemist? That’s very contradictory if you ask me. I don’t care about any melodramatic rant that he is iredeemable, because he is an alchemist. Albeit a bad and malicious one. I just don’t understand this logic.
People say it’s because he is hated more due to being based off of real life? Okay, that is another confusion because how is he related to the cold-hearted and racist Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter? She had at least a level of great evil, villainy and mastermind techniques thanks to a careful and balanced diet of hatred and power-hungry cruelty that she was able to use her position to gain more power and shape the academy into a place with only humans alone. But Tucker, he has nothing. NOTHING! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Dolores would make fun of him as a total moron while she is a genius that is on par with Voldemort. Why go for the idea of hating him based off of real-life things? I don’t like hatred at all and I think it solves absolutely nothing in life.
Do you guys know about his psychology? Because this one quote from him shows how he is broken and inept, “Why can’t anyone understand us, Nina?”. It sounds like he wants people to accept his ideas, thus leading to the fact that he refuses to admit he did something wrong in his attempts to make an innovation in alchemy through the transmutation of Nina and Alexander and desires praise even when the government rejected it, for probably good and ethical reasons. And he seems to be so numb to the point of losing his ethics and being unable to understand why people like Ed is angry at him and why he would punch him many times. Just how did all that stress make him so broken and numb his ethics that he sacrificed poor Nina despite the consequences and saw his family as nothing but test subjects for alchemy?
Whenever I try to ask anyone online about this controversial topic, I only get mocked or worse ostracized. Look, I understand he is a shell of a man that deserves no respect whatsoever (I do not use the term “monster” because he is too pathetic, and he does not have any form of vicious callousness or ruthlessness in his personality when compared to Voldemort, Dolores, Donovan, Prime Minister Honest, and Flowey.
Look, I get it, he deserves to wander in hell in his own delusions while devils and demons make fun of him while Nina and Alexander have peace and solace in heaven.
But not even trying to find deep reasons in things like his psychology and how he is related to real-life people? C’mon guys, I am not saying he has some sad backstory, because ones like Dolores may have one, but is shown to also demonstrate how people like her turn callous, cold, and racist.
But not even understanding about what makes scummy Hate-Sink characters like Tucker tick?
I mean even Hate-Sinks like Gristol Malik from Psychonauts were given deep reasons for why he is the person he is now.
https://psychonauts.fandom.com/wiki/Gristol_Malik
So it would not hurt to tell and answer my questions for Shou Tucker.
And again, I am not defending his unethical experiment whatsoever.
Because what is there to defend an unethical shell of a man?
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Hi guys! Just wanted to give you all a quick update.
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Honestly, out of every Bleach character, BG9 would fit in the absolute best. It would probably be some Automail experiment used in-universe to replace Basque Grand as the new Weapons Alchemist. A character like this would've made an awesome antagonist in my opinion, like an expansion on the concept that Frank Archer brought up.