Talk:The Gate

Think we should have an image for each character's Gate? Just putting it out there. --DARK 00:58, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

It would be interesting to have them on file, but in an article this size, it would be far too cluttered. i suppose, however, that we could include pictures of the various Gates in each character's profile page. CorbeauKarasu 02:18, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

What about like one of those gallery things? They don't take up too much space, and since we only have 5 Gates to show, we could probably squeeze them in on the bottom of the manga section. --DARK 02:25, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, there are 3 gates to show, cause Izumi's and Hohenheim's Gates were never shown in FMA. Turdaewen 14:55, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

I like the idea of a gallery.--Fullmetal Fan 18:28, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

In the manga version, it is called "the doors"(tobira in japanese), while it is only called the gate (mon in japanese) in the 2003 anime.

The trivia is incorrect. It is NOT in every media except the english brotherhood!dub called "the Gate"! As mentioned above the correct term used in the manga is "the doors"(tobira; used as well in the second ending of the first anime). "The Gate" is a first!anime!only term! Please correct this article; a wiki shouldn't include false or incomplete information!

Idiot^ Tommy-Vercetti 22:02, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

By the way, "tobira" in Japanese is literally something like "Doorway" as you said, something with doors that opens. Gateway, hence "Gate" or "Doorway" are both two perfectly logical translations for the word. I see what FUNi is trying to do with "Portal" but honestly, when someone says "portal" I think science fiction-like, a round opening in space, not anything with doors. Gate works here and it's either doorway or Gateway, so your suggestion is pointless because it's already called The Gate. And I have watched the episodes on FUNimation's own site; they say "Gate". So, I have no idea where you're getting any of this from. Tommy-Vercetti 22:05, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

The Gate of... Alkahestry?
I'm wondering how- if at all- the Gate is connected with alkahestry. I'm aware that Amestrian alchemy and alkahestry have two different energy sources and intents (the former focusing energy toward the center while the latter manipulates and "bends" energy throughout the circle). But because they are both forms of alchemy and are presumably based off of knowledge from within the Gate, they should be connected to it somehow. With this in mind, several questions can be asked:

Is human transmutation possible with alkahestry?

If not, does an alkhestrist get dragged through the Gate in the same way, and suffer the same damage?

If the former is correct, can one "clap transmute" to perform alkahestry?

And, can a human transmutation be reversed by using an alkahestric reverse?

Does anyone have any ideas about any of this? (Feel free to speculate, but please, be nice about it and give me genuine ideas. Thanks!) 98.227.43.109 01:03, July 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's a good question, though I personally have no clue of the answer. I'm sure once a few more of the regulars see it; who know way more of the FMA world workings than me, will be able to answer your questions. And don't forget to sign your posts either. Tommy-Vercetti (talk) 22:40, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

The way I see it, alkahestry and Amestrian alchemy are two different paths to the same destination. That is, the same rules apply to both. To use an example, it's like comparing running to riding a bike. Both are forms of transportation that will get you from point A to point B, however they are different, just as alkahestry and alchemy are different. Additionally, both follow the same rules, the laws of physics. So therefore even with alkahestry human transmutation is impossible and one would be dragged through the gate for trying it. Also, while they might not be able to "clap transmute," they would still be able to somehow transmute without a transmutation circle (again, different paths to the same goal).

As for alkahestric reversal, I don't think it's a thing in and of itself. What I mean is, a "reversal" could be done using either Xingese or Amestrian alchemy. The reason Hohenheim used alkahestry to create the reversal circle was because Father new little to nothing about alkahestry. Therefore he wouldn't be able to recognize the circle, and on the the chance that he did he would have no way to counter it.

Those are just my theories, I hope that answers your questions or at the very least gives you something to think about. Fullmetal Fan 08:02, July 12, 2012 (UTC)