User talk:CorbeauKarasu

You don't need to be an admin to create redirects. All you have to do is type #REDIRECT Pagename onto a page and it will automatically redirect. I did it anyways though, just a little tip for the future Haloman333-My Head Asploded! -| My Doomsday Theory 16:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

You seemed to be a hardworking and dedicated user. I am usually busy, so i have been neglectful of the wikia Haloman333-My Head Asploded! -| My Doomsday Theory 19:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hahaha
You're a grammar nazi too eh?

Zéro Kirekisvadegaden 16:22, 1 June 2009 (UTC)Being vague is almost as fun as the other thing.

Basque Gran Controversey
The other user was right. It actually is Basque Gran. Just for future reference Haloman333-My Head Asploded! -| My Doomsday Theory 00:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

re:riza hawkeye page
just for asking.I am not that familiar with wikia style as i am only used to edit wikipedia's only.Does my edit need to have a pre-talk or I need to provide reference link? Cos i found my edit reversed and i probably make some mistakes?please pm me so i may know about it.

Episode pages
Hey, you're an admin, right?

I've been creating/renaming and rewriting articles for all of the anime DVDs, and I was planning to move onto the episode articles (most of which need to be cleaned up), but I'm having a problem with deciding how the articles should be named. If you look at all of the episode articles, you'll see that the titles are not uniform &mdash; some of them just include the title, while some of them have the format "Episode #: "Title" (year)" &mdash; and if we're going to clean up the episode articles, we should start by making sure they have proper names.

Is there a preferred way of naming article pages? We have to make sure that whatever naming convention we choose is compatible with both the 2003 series and the 2009 series, but article names like Episode 2: "Body of the Sanctioned" (2003) just seem a little cluttered. I think we should shorten episode article titles to simply the title of the episode. If the episode title is already the name of another article &mdash; such as Hohenheim of Light &mdash; then we could add "(episode)" at the end of the title, and if two episodes in the two series ever have the same title, we could specify "(2003 episode)" or "(2009 episode)".

If you think the "Episode #: "Title" (year)" format is better, then that's fine, but all of the pages should be named that way, and the site stops me if I try to move too many pages in a short span of time. --Michaelbillings 00:32, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

More about titles and stuff

 * All right. I'll begin changing as many pages as I can. Unfortunately, I changed a couple of them to a "Episode #: Title" format without the year in parentheses, so I'll have to change those again. Moving all these pages around is going to create a lot of redirects...


 * Anyway, I don't have time to write summaries for every episode and whatnot, but my main goal is to make everything uniform and professional-looking. That means coming up with a standard way of naming articles. (When in doubt, I usually look at Wikipedia articles for reference.) I'd also like to go through as many pages as possible and clear up any ambiguities regarding the three storylines (manga, first anime, second anime), since a lot of character pages don't specify which series the information comes from.


 * On another note, although manga fans tend to prefer direct translations of character names and episode titles, I think we should primarily use the "official" English names and titles provided by Funimation, since this is an English wiki. There are a few notorious character names which aren't always translated consistently (Grand/Gran, Law/Loa/Roa, Sheska/Sciezka, etc.), but hopefully those can be worked out. The only thing that really bothers me is that in the English dub of FMA, they definitely say "Ishbal," whereas in the English sub of FMAB, the subtitles spell it as "Ishval." What's more correct? --Michaelbillings 02:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Ishval/Ishbal spellings

 * That makes sense. If it's spelled "Ishval" in the official English manga translation, then that should be the official spelling. Still, to avoid confusion, it should be mentioned on Ishval and any related pages that there are two acceptable spellings thanks to the 2003 anime. Also, in addition to keeping the episode titles and DVD volume titles the way they are, the "Ishbal" spelling should probably be used on any other pages which deal exclusively with the 2003 anime, if there are any. --Michaelbillings 02:54, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Wanted Articles
I was wondering if there are any wanted articles or stuff like that? I want to create a few but I can't think of anything. So can you list a few ideas on what to do? Waterdrop95 17:57, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't know much of those characters yet so I'll try to do Xenotime or Riviere. Waterdrop95 03:34, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey Umm im a fan of the animes and manga and I made a page you deleted Called Pride(anime) and i remade is please do not Delete it again because I believe that the Readers of this site have the right to know what pride was like in the anime and that small paragraph on the manga Pride's page isnt much of a description

Russel and Fletcher Tringham
Well, I've read the light novel The Land of Sand and in that they're spell 'Tringum' Should I move the articles or leave it as it is? Waterdrop95 17:46, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

That's because in the prologue, the person who rescued the girl was Russell. Because Russell's eyes are silver. Waterdrop95 01:13, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Character template issue
I did leave those fields blank. When I went to save the changes to Nina's age, the { – }'s appeared in each blank field. I was unable to remove those no matter what I did. Is this a known issue with something? Or do I need to leave a wildcard to get rid of those brackets?

Template Issue
I'm wondering if it was some sort of issue with the latest release of FireFox, since that's what I used at the time of editing the page.

Article of the week
I have been very busy, attempting to have a life and all. I had no time to update the article after every week. Also I think that I should not be the one to judge what article should be on the front page. If you still wish to do this I will figure out how to change it today.

hello i was wondering if i could replace the picture of "Father" with a picture of him that actually shows his face in the manga that way its not just the top-half of his face

one more question, i'm new to this whole wikia thing so, how do I change the picture?

i'm sorry but i hope you don't mind giving me a step-by-step way of doing it (i'm terrible at figuring these things out solo)

About Page
Hi, just took a look at the Project:About page and it's full of grammar errors >_<. It's locked so could you edit it? Kind of bugs me that a main page like that would be so poorly constructed. --Full Metal Paladin 19:23, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Homunculus Picture
I'm just wondering where that picture of the homunculus came from, it's awsome. --DARK 02:46, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Welcome
Welcome to the Fullmetal Alchemist Wiki! I'm KingLinkTiger, one of the admins who attempted to work on the wiki (And failed xD). I'm going to work on a some things again. For example the background. I would like to change it to black with the red FMA logo. Message me back if you think this is a good idea. 10:48, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Different spellings and translations?
I've noticed that there were different spellings and translations that I'm not very used to. I am an avid reader of the manga and there are lots of different spellings from the manga.

Isn't Ran Fan supposed to be Lan Fan? And shouldn't Xerxes be Cselkcess?

It just gets confusing because I thought that since the manga is original, the spellings should be according to the manga.

Waterdrop95 06:04, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

I'm just replying from an earlier post you sent me. I haven't addressed this for a while, but I think "Mei Chan" should be spelled "May Chan." I'm Chinese so I have a bit of an idea and I've asked some friends about it. They say that it can be spelled either way and since the author and anime spells it "May", I think it should be spelled that way. Tell me what you think.

Waterdrop95 05:15, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Skin
Just wanted to ask a fellow member. Do you think the new skin looks good. Or should I revert to the past one. User:KingLinkTiger 03:01, October 11, 2009 (UTC) P.S. I know that there is still work to do with the skin. For example the templates.

I liked the old skin much better. This white obscures the already dark info on the right and it worked better with the style.

Brand new FMA game
Check this out. It's the new Fullmetal Alchemist game coming out on the 15th. It's in Japanese for the PSP (I think). I only have a DS so I don't think I can play it. Here's the link for the game.

http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/hagane/index.html

Waterdrop95 23:07, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Uploading images and editing the infobox?
I know how to edit and upload images into the infobox. It's just that when I edit it, then there are brackets on every trait. Also, I think the picture of Oliver Armstrong is a bit strange considering that we have edited all the infoboxes whenever the character makes a cameo in an episode. Since the brackets appear when I edit an infobox, I wonder if you can?

The picture looks like this:



Let me know what you think. If you don't like it, you don't have to post it. I would still like to know how to edit the infobox though.

Waterdrop95 04:57, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

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Hello Admin
Hi, I'm Sxerks, from the Anime & Manga Hub

I'm asking admins of Anime-related wikis if you would add this link   to the bottom of your SIDEBAR. Its a link to the Anime & Manga Hub on Wikia.

We are currently working on adding basic pages as well as a list of anime wikis on wikia.

We Also have a monthly Anime/Manga spotlight on our Main Page. Read about it here.

Also, you have "rollback" as a user right, if you are a "sysop" you have rollback capabilities, so it's redundant.


 * --Sxerks 01:42, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Hello
Thanks for the blog comment. It was cool you didn't hear of Cullen until you brought up Elric and Hellsing. I prefer Elric to say the least. Sometimes I wish I never heard of Twilight. Soil is my power! 00:30, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Adult Swim Wiki
Greetings. My name is Spencer, and I have recently adopted the Adult Swim Wiki. As you may know, Full Metal Alchemist has been airing on Adult Swim since 2008. We at the Adult Swim Wiki are attempting to expand by adding articles on shows, including syndicated shows and liscensed anime like FMA. You seem to be the top admin. on this wiki, so I have a favor to ask. If you or another admin. could help, we would like to ask if you could create a short article about FMA on the Adult Swim Wiki. We only ask that you write a brief overview of the series and some main characters, and then place a link to your FMA wiki at the bottom of the page, for anyone that wishes to explore FMA in much greater detail.

Please contact me with an answer, or any question you may have. Thanks for your time,--Spencerz 16:42, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Question Marks on Japanese Terms
I've noticed that the Japanese names of several characters on this wiki have a question mark after the romanized spelling. For example: (エドワード・エルリック, Edowādo Erurikku?) I have a hunch that these question marks are only there because people copied and pasted these Japanese and Romanji spellings directly from Wikipedia, where Japanese terms are often followed by a super-scripted question mark which is linked to a help page on installing Japanese character sets. If that's the case, the question marks don't really belong there, and should be removed. Is there a different reason for them? Or could I go ahead and start removing them whenever I see them? --Michaelbillings 06:50, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Wikianswers Anime Widget
Hi,

Due to recent changes, the Wikianswers widget now sends questions to Wikianswers Anime rather Wikianswers. Can you change the following pages accordingly, so they redirect to Wikianswers Anime rather than Wikianswers:

MediaWiki:Answers widget user note, MediaWiki:Answers widget anon note and MediaWiki:Answers widget admin note Find questions about Full Metal Alchemist on Wikianswers Anime.

MediaWiki:Ask a question Ask a Full Metal Alchemist question

Thanks... ~ Akadirgun (userpage &#8285; talk) 18:00, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Template
I'd like to help you, but what table do you mean, the one with the voice actor and stuff? or the one with full synopsis? 07:17, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

lol you already made all I needed for it ;) you just had to make a template page for it I made a small edit tough.

(no tekst) results in:

Results in

maybe it needs centering hmmm.... 08:19, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

I meant centering the tekst ni the template :P, but i dunno, you could always test it :P 08:36, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Manga chapter images
Wow, you're doing a great job with all those chapters, but where do you get images from? Are they from the printed volumes? I've only seen some of them among scanlations. Are there images like these for all chapters? Kiadony 16:41, April 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Most chapters have splash pages (as opposed to just having the chapter title and number printed on one of the first few normal content pages), a lot of them are colored and pretty much all of the colored ones have appeared as special pieces in the artbooks Arakawa has put out. I want to put up all the splash pages and title pages as the chapter page images, but for the ones that were originally in color (unfortunately the Viz printed volumes only offer black and white), I had to take their original versions from the artbooks. There are places online where the images from the artbooks have been scanned and uploaded, but I've only been able to find artbooks one and two, so I can't find any clean color images past Chapter 53. If other artbook versions aren't found, we'll have to upload the title pages from onemanga.com or something, though that's not so bad; it's what I'd planned to do for all the splash pages that don't have an artbook master print anyway. I was able to download the first two artbooks today from thedbarchives.com CorbeauKarasu 17:00, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Wow. I had scanned a whole bunch of black-and-white splash pages from the manga, and I see you have a bunch of colored. *_* I must applaud. I have chapters 5-69, would they help you in any way? Zwolf. 17:09, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Chapter Splash Pages
Wow. I had scanned a whole bunch of black-and-white splash pages from the manga, and I see you have a bunch of colored. *_* I must applaud. I have chapters 5-69, would they help you in any way? Zwolf. 17:11, April 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. All the splash pages between 1 and 53 that haven't yet been put up were black-and-white to begin with, so if you have them, please feel free to put them up. Chapters 54, 55 and 56 also had uncolored title pages, so I'd appreciate it if you put those up as well. Just stick to the 250px width and it should be fine. Still looking for color versions of the painted splashes from 57 onward, but scanlators had begun releasing them in color by then, so if we can't find clean color versions, we can upload the splashes from actually released chapters, especially since that's what we'll have to do with many of the b&w ones anyway. CorbeauKarasu 17:38, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

In a dream...... ( XD )
So, that userpage of yours is pretty odd, huh? It was like you were 3rd personing it! I think so, anyways.....Were you? Is my spelling wrong? Will you reply? Will our heroes EVER get a day off? Stay tuned!!

XD Sorry, but I couldn't resist!

Roy's Alchemy
May I ask why you are so adamant against expanding the article to mention Roy's other alchemic skills? Do you think it was a bad idea for Arakawa to include them or something?


 * While these other abilities of his are useful, they don't extend past the realm of regular alchemy. Your edits were helpful in that they brought to light the fact that the article makes it sound as though Roy can only use alchemy dealing with flames and I have edited the section to include the fact that he can perform standard alchemy as well. His transmutation of the truck is nothing special by alchemical standards and his transmutation of the body is a greater indication of his intelligence than his skill. Both feats will eventually be mentioned in his story summary and so, do not need to be mentioned in his Flame Alchemy section. CorbeauKarasu 00:06, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. That was the reason I made the edit; because there is a misconception(accentuated by the first anime) that the State Alchemists in general, and Roy in particular, were limited to their respective specialties. I believe Arakawa had added those parts only to make it clear Roy wasn't limited to his Flame alchemy, and while I think you could be a little more detailed in your line you've covered it now.

Looking for a friend
Excuse have you heard of a user my the name TrinitySkye?Hikaruyami-having fun* 11:26, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Hi-res images
Oh ok thanks. I've replaced the Izumi and a bear one. Kiadony 11:11, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Knox
On the official site, hagaren.jp, Dr. Knox's name is spelled as 'Nocks'. Since we've decided to use FMAB spellings, should we change his, too? Or should we stick with the widely recognized 'Knox'? --Kiadony 17:26, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I want to say stick with "Knox", at least for now. CorbeauKarasu 20:10, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Scar's profile Image
Crow admin guy, would you consider this photo better than the current one? - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 13:00, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

You mean the current one THAT I MADE WITH MY BLOOD AND TEARS!?!?!?!! ><"""

Sure. It's clearer, anyhow. Just crop it on the right side so it's not so horizontally long. Make his face the center; that'll allow more of the actual face to be shown inside the image space of the character infobox. Also, do you have a higher resolution picture? If the upload you gave is as big as it gets, then it might be difficult for the picture to really show that his eyes are red, since clicking it won't give a bigger version. CorbeauKarasu 13:07, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

I can't make it bigger than this, at least not from the source I got it from (hulu), I'll crop it like you said, but that's as big as it'll be until me or someone else gets it off a bigger screen or web player. BTW, it's easier for people to get your messages if you make a reply message based on the same thing on their talk page, example: Re:Scar's profile Image, but if you already knew that I didn't mean any offense. - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 13:33, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

I use a Mac, so I have this thing called "dashboard" and it has "widgets" which are used to perform special actions. One of which is the "Screenshot Plus" which is used to take a picture of anything on the screen, which I use to get pictures from the anime I watch. Also I'm pretty sure the print screen button is for windows. - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 14:57, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Mei to May
Somehow, Mei chang's page was renamed May chang, but no history of a move was left, any idea how it happened? - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 06:47, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so that's what happened. - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 13:38, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Availability
There isn't a Russian print of the manga, yes, and they don't sell manga in English (or any other languages) here at all. In fact, there are only a few selected manga series that are printed in Russia, and they are far behind the Japanese and American releases (for example, we only have 8 or 9 volumes of Naruto). On the other hand, Russian translation (at least of Naruto and co) is horrible and our transliteration system sucks, so I'd prefer English translation anyway (even though VIZ doesn't seem to do a great job either). I've heard that one can buy manga in English in Finland which is close to where I live, but in fact, I'm perfectly comfortable with reading manga on the Internets. Besides, I like finding different translations (that includes subs) because you can get the most accurate one if you compare them. As to anime, I watch it on animecrazy.net. I even had a little fun watching FMAB with Russian subs, which was translated surprisingly well. Fans often get it better than publishers, don't they? Also, some sites like mangahelpers.com have volume scans, some sites have omake translations/scanlations etc. I know I'm still missing a lot of stuff that is in volumes, but well, there are still you people who don't. Kiadony 17:45, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Rollback
Ooh, thanks a lot! Kiadony 06:12, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Hello, I'm Rogue 177, I've just recently gotten into anime, and I watch all of the episode of FMA, but how did the transition from FMA to FMAB go? I thought stuff was fixed for the most part. Ed going through the gate along with Envy as that dragon, then Al was normal with no memories of what happened, could you tell me what I missed, or something? Thank you. --SPARTAN Rogue 177 16:40, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Fu's artcile
Could you please divide Fu's into sections? Thanks! Kiadony 13:55, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, do you know what time today episode 57 will be uploaded?

I think the old black skin was much better.

It fit the style, and this new white one obscures all the still-dark-skinned information on the right hand side.

I don't know why you changed it, but I opt for reverting it back.

Editing the boxes and box suggestion
I don't know why I can't edit it. I click everything I can, edit full page and all I get is an option to view it, but I can't physically type/change anything. So, I don't know. Maybe I'm not doing it correctly, but I don't know any other ways to do it.

On another note, I have an idea about those boxes. I think it's kind of cluttered how it is now, referring to characters in both animes. Like, let's use Envy for an example:

Motivations: (lists manga motivations) then the next one is (2003 anime motivation) with a * to signalfy the difference. In my opinion, with some characters that's really crazy and really cluttered. For characters in each, can't you make two seperate boxes from them? Then the first one in the 2009/Manga section, use a picture of them from that anime, their motivations, voice actors there, then for the 2003 ones, use a picture of them there and then have all that info there. I think it would look a lot better in all honesty, but it's just a suggestion. Cornwiggle 19:33, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry
I wasn't trying to be rude, but I guess that's how my words come off as. Cornwiggle 23:20, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

108
Does anyone know when 108 will become available? And when will the end of Brotherhood be? Lee Dante 21:06, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Future Reference
You're using the "Rich Text Editor", I assume? The style of editing that pretty much just opens the page to edits without transferring it to source code? I'm not very knowledgeable about that style, but I do remember being able to edit infoboxes that way somehow. That's how most new members make infobox edits, after all. However, one reason I dislike the RTE is the fact that altering the infoboxes in any way completely removes categories that are empty, thereby causing errors in the infobox when the alterations are saved. A little more trial and error should get you going with editing infoboxes in the RTE, but if you do figure it out, please remember to input a single blank space into every empty category so that it doesn't get erased. When your changes are saved, the categories with a blank space in them will not show and the errors caused by erasing categories altogether will be circumvented. A much simpler way to edit the infoboxes (and pages in general, imo) is to use the source version instead of RTE. After clicking "Edit this page", there should be an option along the top bar to switch to "Source" mode. All images and templates will appear as code, but in that form, edits are as simple as inputting text. Again, take care not to erase blank categories from infoboxes, as this causes errors. You should be able to switch back and forth between Source and RTE if you prefer (however - for whatever reason - my account did away with the RTE option long ago, so I myself can't use it *shrug*). CorbeauKarasu 15:58, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, can you assist me please?
Hi, I saw that you must be the top mod on this wiki. I need a little assistence with uploading images.

I think I've got that you have to upload them to the gallery, but I can't seem to put them where I want to. How do you replace the older ones with the newer ones? I think I almost did it with the Kimblee picture I'm trying to add, but it also just threw one up in the middle of the page.

That's what I just cannot figure out.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. Tommy-Vercetti 19:46, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Pace
Nah, you don't have to worry about my pacing.

I've looked around and can't really find anything more to add at the moment. I pretty much did all I was planning to do. If I see anything more, I'll be sure and tweek them a little, or random bits of trivia, spelling errors, or captions, but you don't have to worry about me uploading a million pictures. I had a few things in mind that needed fixing today, so that's what I did. Tommy-Vercetti 23:42, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Ranks in infoboxes
I've noticed that in the source of Alex Louis Armstrong's infobox there's a rank property (between 'occupation' and 'abilities'), but it doesn't show on the page. Roy Mustang's box (as well as others') doesn't have the property at all. I guess it isn't meant to be there, but having their ranks in the infoboxes might be a nice idea. Is there a way to make it work? Kiadony 16:06, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hideable Dropdown Boxes
Do you still wish to have these because I believe i can program one just tell me what you want it for exactly and i will make a template for it. KingLinkTiger 19:37, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I made a secondary Dropdown Box yesterday and I placed it in a DVD page so that if someone wishes to read the synopsis they can use the dropdown to read it. I believe I placed it on a page with an Infobox but I don't exactly remember. I will get to work optimizing one, maybe with options for it being an Episode or Chapter. KingLinkTiger 23:09, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

See Episode 1: Fullmetal Alchemist (2009 series) for an example.

Elric Family Picture
I've browsed around and have noticed the the Elric Family Picture is nowhere on any page, which is a real shame. It's one of the more important pictures. I read through Hohenheim's article and there's nowhere to place it (The whole part where he takes it is missing). There's not really an "Elric Family" page, but I'd like to put it somewhere.

Where do you suggest. Be sure to reply on my page, so I'll be sure to see it. Here's the upload though:



Tommy-Vercetti 21:35, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I'll leave it to you then. If you're just going to rewrite it eventually, it would feel stupid to put it in and make more trouble for you. The picture's there when you need it. Tommy-Vercetti 14:35, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Editing boxes
Don't know, I try and do what you suggested and I can access the box but I can't physically change anyway. I have no idea why. Tommy-Vercetti 15:58, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Volume and Chapter List
Ah, I see. Sure, it won't be any trouble! I'll finish it by tonight, probably. YazzyDream 16:46, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Edit, sorry, I meant, adding the release dates shouldn't be any trouble. but I can't quite figure out how I could link to each volume. You can go ahead and make a page for each volume if you like. Haha, sorry maybe making this whole thing was too presumptuous of me? Here's the template, if you wanna give it a go.

Avatars
Hey, I asked someone else for help, but apparently they're not going to answer, so I thought I'd ask you. Since you run this place, I figure you must know everything about working it, right?

The avatars; the teeny tiny ones that are up when you click our screen-names. I just cannot fit the image in it correctly. I've used the resize site, tried 100x100, 40x40 and just about everything in between and it still comes out like it is now. All ugly and deformed; not straight. I've seen others with good avatars, so what's the size I need? I just cannot figure it out. Thanks for the help. Tommy-Vercetti 23:49, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Junk Page
I think you missed it

http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Arcanum

It's completely pointless. It's already in the "Liore" page.Tommy-Vercetti 21:29, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I was wondering why it was still blank.

I don't really have anything to put in it, but you probably do. It's not really all that different from the Liore explanation. Smaller circle, same thing really. But whatever. I'll leave it to you :-! Tommy-Vercetti 21:43, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Unruly member
Hey, there. I have this little problem.

It's kinda a long story, but I'll explain.

You know how I go around adding periods to captions? You approve of that, right? It's a natural assumption. It makes sense too. The caption is a sentence and sentences need punction.

Like "Scar's arm belonged to his brother" needs period, but if it was just "Scar's arm" it would be alright without. The thing is, most pages ARE sentences.

Okay, well, I ran into this one member here who first started to remove periods. Htm14

Since his link is red, he has no talk page, so I can't talk to him. I left a comment when I changed his edit. "It needs a period" and then replied on my talk page. (You can see it for yourself if you want) about how since it's not a sentence it doesn't need a caption.

I wanted to reply to him, but as I said. He has no talk page. Well, I just got another message from him, basically "Well, if you're not going to provide a logical answer, then I won't either" and now he's going around, page to page, removing all the periods. And since you let me put periods, like I said, I think you're with my mentality too. I've been undoing his edits, but you should see for yourself. If this keeps up, I wouldn't be opposed to this guy being banned from editing. Thanks. Tommy-Vercetti 17:49, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

They do make the pages look better in my opinion.

I've seen a lot of wikipedias where captions randomly have punctuation or not. It's so disorderly and kinda amateurish looking. It's like, pick one or not. I really like that adds a bit more of a professional page to punctuate. You know, I do try and make pages look as best as they can. I hope that's not too much to ask to let me put periods on them for the sake of consistency. Tommy-Vercetti 18:18, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sections
Looks like you were right. All the sections are back to normal finally.

To be honest, I wasn't hardly even doing anything to revert them when I edited them. They still showed it like normal, but it was coming off different. I'm not even sure how I even reverted it back then. But it looks like it did it automatically, finally. Tommy-Vercetti 20:44, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking
Instead of even HAVING to worry if the captions have punctuations or not, it would be nice if the majority of pictures on articles were like this:

http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Ishvalan

It's just a picture, no box, none of that. Problem is, one would have to resize every image to that same size to get that effect (as it's the full size option). Problem is that would take a lot of work. It would look so much nicer though. Too bad if you don't put a caption on thumbnails it still shows an empty box, which LOOKS like it's missing something.

Still, most of the captions are just redundant and stating the same thing in the article where they're placed; it would be nice to get rid of them like that. Tommy-Vercetti 00:37, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sage info
This has been bothering me for awhile.

On Hohenheim and Father's page it has

Hohenheim: Sage of the West

Father: Sage of the East

Look here:

http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Xing

This clearly shows Xing to the right ---> of Amestris, right? Like, if Amestris is around Germany's area and Xing is around China. Technially Amestris is West and Xing is East, based on that view, right? Well, Hohenheim taught alchemy in Xing, which was East. And Father taught it to Amestris, west.

So, shouldn't Father being the Sage of the West and Hohenheim of the East? I could have sworn I even saw this in the series, with those appropriate titles. I can't make sense of Hohenheim being West at all.

Please explain it to me how he is if it's right, but if I'm right, you should probably get around to changing their boxes.

Also, I'm going to upload a picture, so I asked this because I'm not quite sure what to put as the caption. So for now, I'm going to put "Sage of the West", but if I turn out to be wrong, here's the link to it so you can change it. I'm still curious about this fact though. Thanks:

http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Alchemy#Secret_Origins Tommy-Vercetti 20:08, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Got it now. Thanks. Tommy-Vercetti 20:19, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Capitalize or not
I wanted to ask, should 'Transmutaion Circle' and other names like this always be capitalized or not? 'Homunculus' should be, and it is, on most pages, but I've seen TC being both capitalized and not capitalized. I just don't know if there are rules about it in English. Kiadony 08:23, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Problem in FullMetal Alchemist, just a detail ...
Hi, I'm French.

I think that the creators of Fullmetal Alchemist have forgotten to show us the death of one of the generals of the High Authority, in fact, among the eight generals, we had the death of Raven, Gardner, then the man with the mustache which has been eaten by the army immortal, and the man who became overwhelmed by Sloth and the last is dead general who has also eaten by the immortal army. I count five dead, unfortunately, I do not know all their names. There Clemina and Edison, it all makes so seven generals who have shown the cartoons, yet it lacks many eighth is the man with the glasses, however, appears in the animated drawing during meetings the High Authority. They have forgotten this small detail. I would add that I am disappointed that all the names of generals is not given. Thank you for listening.

New Elric Family Photo
Do you want me to change the manga pictures to the anime of the final photo of the family? I saw you uploaded it but haven't it done it yet either.

Of course, you might be feeling the same thing as me "They ruined it by putting Paninya and Garfiel in it" so maybe that's why you don't want to? Just curious and asking. I really thought it was stupid to put Paninya and Garfiel in it. Tommy-Vercetti 19:02, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Dealing with the vandalizing idiot
Actually, don't block Dog of the Military, I want to add some information to it. Tommy-Vercetti 20:28, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

That is actually a really good idea
but if you block my profile, couldn't I just create another?

I dont know who cornwiggle is (sounds like a guy with E.D.) By the way have you checked your user page lately?

unregistered users
We didn't use to have a problem before and now it seems like every unregistered user is the same kind of spamming, vandalizing troll. Can you just make it so you can't edit without registering? If they try when registered, it'll be so easy to ban them and keep them banned. I think that's the best choice. Any real unregistered user who actually wants to contribute should just sign up anyway. Not like it costs anything or takes longer than 5 minutes. What do you think? I'm getting real tired of these damn trolls... Tommy-Vercetti 23:45, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Well, the point of wikia is that anyone can edit things whenever they see an inconsistency. There is a way to protect each and every page from edits by non-registered users, but aside from it being a pain to do (unless someone can tell me another way) it really wouldn't be fair to punish everyone because of the actions of a few. Besides that, the guy you're dealing with now isn't a troll. Being new, he simply doesn't know how to edit the infoboxes. Like I precautioned you before you began editing them, leaving empty categories in infoboxes when editing them with the Rich Text Editor erases the category entirely and the code doesn't understand that, so it causes errors. It's a pain to fix (I admittedly take the cop-out route and just unto the entire edit despite the fact that useful information is often added), but it doesn't count as trolling. We'll deal with the trolls as they come. CorbeauKarasu 01:35, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

hey its me, that troll youre talking about?

i very much understand what i am doing i just dont really care

See, man?

I can spot a troll a million miles away. You don't change "Hohenheim"'s name in his article to "Parckewylsealefjsefs" or whatever. Look at all his edits. He constantly just butchers pages for the fun. No one can accidentally do that crap. I would reconsider. For the serious unregistered people, just say "Please register if you wish to edit". If they're that determined, they probably will. Please do something about the damn trolls. Tommy-Vercetti 21:30, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

its not like i just replaced it with a random word

Paracelsus is another name for the swiss alchemist, Phillippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim

and by the way i thought i already told you that i am not cornwiggle

if i really was him would I have made fun of him earlier by saying that cornwiggle sounds like a guy that has E.D?

Well, first of all, it isn't at all a rare tactic on the internet for people to badmouth their main persona while operating under an alias so as to make people believe that they are a different person, so just making fun of Cornwiggle isn't nearly enough proof to suggest that you're not him.(yeah but would a guy tell another guy that hes really only half a guy) Secondly, it's clear that you know the series and that you're a fan.(what makes you think that) It isn't hard to tell. So why do you feel the need to troll so much? If you're just bored, I continue to urge you to get over it.(exactly, this is how i am dealing with it, dumbass!) Hell, if what you want is to help us work on the site, you're honestly welcome to it (the same offer I extended to Cornwiggle after he threw a hissyfit over not being treated like a special little snowflake) - the more interested editors, the better. But this trolling stuff is getting rather tiresome. Aren't you tired of it yet?(no, you?) I figure if you're just some guy, you'll soon find some better way to occupy your time than just picking at the site.(I can see why you would think that but i can stick to something for weeks) If you are Cornwiggle, however, (as Cornwiggle was quite the unabashed whiner and widely hated troll all around the internet) then that's another matter.(i have never heard of him up untill i started messing with this site. is that why you think i am him?) The trolling is annoying, but again, you appear to have a connection to the site and know your FMA.(again how the hell do you know that i like fma you pervert stalker?!!!) Whether you're Cornwiggle or not, will you be helping out or will you continue to waste time and energy being a deliberate nuisance?(i will probably start helping out tomorrow, it depends) If the latter, then for heaven's sake why?(i dunno) CorbeauKarasu 23:43, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

if you respond seriously to the questions i put in parentheses in the preceeding paragraph then i will help you. i also promice to stop trolling (at least on this wikia) tell me what i can do for you. also tell me if there is any way that i can prove my loyalty. please tell me cornwiggles current email. and by the way, i already have a login but i havent used it in a while because i knew you would block it for trolling. once i know you wont block me i will tell you what it is.

1)Actually, it is quite common for people to attack the sexuality of their alternate persona while anonymous. Sometimes the more vicious attacks help give alts' true identities away because they've no visible reason to go so far with their insults against the main account. 2)I perceived you to be a fan because your first trolling edit - as I remember - was to create a page for the Dog of the Military chapter and on that page, you referred to Black Hayate as "Black Hurricane", which as you know is the translation of his name. You changed Hohenheim to Paracelsus, which as you know is the moniker of the ancient philosopher and alchemist upon whom the character is based. Then, when trolling on the Rockbell Automail page, you added (albeit unnecessarily) that the Rockbell house was near the remains of the Elric house. Now, the first two, you could have managed merely by reading the notes on the pages you were vandalizing, but the last one took at least some knowledge of Resembool and the series. Most trolls just troll once or twice and add stuff like profanities to pages, but you did it a bit differently. 3)Yes, I am quite tired of the trolling, thank you very much. Put frankly, I've already too much to deal with on the site and in real life to have to be on the lookout for trolls. Your first series of trolling edits were made while I was trying to enjoy my birthday (make whatever crack you like about the kind of guy who tries to mod a fan website instead of enjoying his own birthday party). 4)I worried that you were Cornwiggle because you kept coming back. Cornwiggle left under rather nasty circumstances, was banned and had his userpage deleted by me, so he's got a grudge against the site. While normal trolls get tired of it after a short while, someone with a grudge could really become a nuisance. It hasn't been very long since his banning and he hasn't been back since then, so I was afraid we were overdue. 5) See 2) for repeat question.

Now that the little game is done, I'll make myself clear. I won't force you to help us and even as the site is now, we could probably get along without very much more help, but if you want to help, you are more than welcome to do so whenever you like and you have the right to quit whenever you like. We have a certain way of doing things around here that is relatively easy to pick up after a short time and edits that don't fit that pattern will be altered until they do. I urge you not to make the same mistake Cornwiggle did; if you see that one of your "perfectly good" edits has been altered or removed, don't take it personally. No one is picking on you and everyone here is treated more or less equally. If you have an objection or a grievance, take it to a talk page. If you have questions, bring them to me or another user familiar with the site. I don't need any "signs of loyalty" from anyone, nor do I have Cornwiggle's information. If an edit you make isn't up to snuff, it will be altered. If you make a trolling edit, it will be removed and if you make a habit of trolling, you'll be banned. It's quite simple. If you get bored, bring your trolling to my talk page or make a blog on the site; I'll be happy to shoot the breeze. And always sign your talk page entries with four tildes (~).

Am I right in assuming your username is User:Reverse ouroboros? The day that name and one other were registered, I remember you saying that you had made a username for yourself and that one is the first of the two to become active. CorbeauKarasu 01:07, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

thank you for telling me all of that

i am reverse ouroboros

i thought it was quite obvious becuase i had posted something in a new category and then went to post something here after having logged out and switching internet connections. it couldnt have been helped even though i deleted it. you could have just checked the history.

i am sorry about trolling on your birthday. i especially hope that it didn't ruin your good time that day(let me know how it turned out on my user page)

by the way how can i become an admin/mod?

this category is kind of long do you want me to delete everything pertaining to me specifically so that it doesnt inconvenience other users?Reverse ouroboros 01:49, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

A Special Little Snowflake
Am I one?

besides that i just wanted to say i havent trolled anymore and i have been fixing grammer and spelling on some pages by coppying the source to microsoft word

there are a lot of mistakes in punctuation!

when i said that i was making a reference to what you said about cornwiggle

to tell you the truth i think there was one or two times where i wanted to speak up and i just didnt know how

Your birthday
i really hope i didnt ruin it with my trolling that day please forgive me

let me know how it turned outReverse ouroboros 16:33, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Pater abavo est creator; filius redemptor et mediator
The only place I've found even part of the phrase is Archbishop Thomas Cranmer's translation of Justus Jonas' Introduction to German Catechism. Remember that. CorbeauKarasu 00:38, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Alchemy page
I'm not too sure on how to split pages but the alchemy page seems to have information that can be made into another page. The Human Transmutation section seems really diverse so that it can be made into a new page. Human transmutation is a specialized branch of alchemy, true, but its like piling all the items in Fullmetal Alchemist onto one page. Having Human Transmutation as a separate page can make it more convient and we can make it more detailed, including more specifics of the various forms of Human Transmutation. Waterdrop95 22:07, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

General Gardner
Explain me why Général Gardner become Lieutenant General Gardner, however in the anime, we see a soldat who announce the death of GENERAL Gardner and not Lieutenant General. Thanks to explain me.

First off, please remember to sign your name at the end of messages. Secondly, you're clearly a Francophone <3 (mes parents sont Haitien). But as to your actual question, I was unsure at first. Not being all that up on military rank standards, I was content to let other handle that, but I am aware that even those with ranks like "Lt. General" and "Major General" can be referred to as "General" for short, since they are technically Generals. As for Gardner, after checking out his scenes in the manga and comparing them against the military chart we have recreated from Arakawa's notes, it appears that his shoulder insignia bears only two stars - meaning that he is indeed a Lt. General and the soldier who had referred to him as "General" was either misinterpreted or using a shorter title in order to convey his message more directly. CorbeauKarasu 13:42, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ok sorry. Yes, I am French. I see now that Gardner have only two stars. Thanks for reply.

Disabling the RTE
Apparently, it is possible to disable the RTE - they did so recently on Mass Effect Wikia. I was wondering if this could be useful here (I recall people having problems with it...). Here is the post: Kiadony 11:37, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Very interesting. Thanks. CorbeauKarasu 17:48, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think it wouldn't hurt to have a vote on it, at least. I know I wouldn't be sad to see Rich Text go, I used it a bit when I first started and I couldn't stand it for long. I don't know if you can set up a vote without removing the survey on the front page, but I also think it's a bad idea to take it out without consulting the community first. If the majority of people want it, the rest of us can just set source mode to our default.--Full Metal Fan 04:12, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Miles
Does't mention Miles a wife when he speaks with Ed about his Ishvalan heritag in Chapter 65?

In all the translations I've seen, Miles notes that his grandfather is fully Ishvalan while his father, mother and grandmother are of different ethnicities. No one ever mentions a wife. CorbeauKarasu 04:11, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Well, he says it. Exaktly there in the same speech bubble. ...", but my grandmother, farther ... and incidentally my wife, are of a different race." And in the Anime he says the same in episode 34 (min 8:0).

Thanks for the note, that would have been a pain to hunt down, but while the Viz manga translates the line as "my grandmother, my father and my mother", the official subtitles read "my grandmother, my father and, incidentally, his wife", referring to Miles mother (the wife of his father) and not his wife. it's been a while since I read the unofficial scanlations, but i'm relatively sure I'd have made a note of it if the ones I'd read had mentioned Miles being married. CorbeauKarasu 04:29, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

I see: tramslationproblem. The scanlations are good, but not 100% correct. Thanks for the clairifikation. (poor Miles - no lady for him)

What is all this anyway?
Here:

http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

See how it has +797899837592 and then -53247, whatever numbers. What the heck does all that even mean? I've been wondering for awhile and have no clue. Tommy-Vercetti 15:37, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

My thoughts
My thoughts are simply this:

Leave the trivia in, the mention to their own personal vices, but just remove "Single-handedly" and change it to "Dealt the finishing blow". I really think that's a perfect way to explain it. It points out the theme of them fighting against their vices and keeps the information correct regarding the fights. That's my suggestion. Tommy-Vercetti 18:04, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sheska
Sheska's first appearance is actually in episode 7 of the 2003 anime, which she can be physically seen. If you need proof I can provide you with details to prove it. -Adv193 18:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Rollback
Wow, really? Well, FMA has ended, so my activity dropped... I edit some other Wikis, too... But if you really think I'm worthy, thanks, I appreciate it! Kiadony 17:09, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

You're right
I was wondering why in the subs he was "Heiss Clif" It almost sounded like "Heithcliff" to me. The subs weren't bad by any means, but apparently they mistranslated his name. Especially when you consider how everyone has an english name, Heithcliff makes more sense.Tommy-Vercetti 15:04, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Stubs
I don't know who made these, but they really get in the way. Like, it's okay to state that it's a stub, but considering that the graphic is like 2x too large, it makes the pages look tacky. Here's an example:

http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Episode_15:_The_Envoy_From_the_East_%282009_series%29

See how it cuts into the box? Is there any way to change it, shorten it, do something? I've tried myself and can't even access them, so I thought I'd bring it to your attention. Tommy-Vercetti 17:25, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I noticed that too, and it didn't seem to be like that until a few days ago. Did wikia make an update that changed the way the stub boxes look, or what? I'd be happy just to see a small box in the corner that says 'stub', and if people want more information they can follow a link to a page about stubs (like this: http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Stubs )--Full Metal Fan 01:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ban
http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/90.231.69.99

Check out this person's "contributions", they need to be banned from editing.Tommy-Vercetti 20:35, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Kiadony 10:21, October 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * A another person that needs to be banned is ICEYOU due to three vandalism-related edits to the Lust page, her are the contributions as proof: http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/ICEYOU, it is very likely this person is vandalist only user and won't contribute to anything positive for this site. -Adv193 06:21, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

I thank you sincerely for your report. I'm not in the habit of issuing bans lightly, especially for one-time minor offenses like this, but as per your recommendation, I WILL issue a ban to this user if he or she does it again. CorbeauKarasu 06:48, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, but note that I usually only ask for something like this, only for vandal users and IP's, if their edit history is for a single purpose of vandalism edits only. Besides I've had my fair share of dealing with vandals on other wiki sites. -Adv193 16:31, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

UGH
Is there anyway to revert the wiki back to its old style? For some reason, it automatically changed it for me upon entering. Was it the same for anyone else?

There is not a word strong enough to illustrate how much I hate these new design. Is there anyway to change it back? Tommy-Vercetti 14:31, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, I got it back. Oh, man. Wiki's new skin is awful beyond belief.

If anyone else has that problem and wants to revert it, all you have to do is go to your name, preferences, and skin. I'm glad at least it's reversable. Tommy-Vercetti 14:36, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Aren't we all. I was just on the Wikia page and about 99% (at least) of users hate the new format. There was also a comment that said monobook only lasts until November third, but I'm not sure if that's true. It damn well better be a lie because I will never get used to this quote-unquote "improved" format.

Here's a blog about the new format: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Sannse/Your_First_Look_at_the_New_Wikia. If you do just a little studying and looking around the wiki you'll see that the only people who like it are Wikia staff.--Full Metal Fan 04:41, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Wow...okay, Monaco makes it normal for me...but though no one likes the new format, the fact that it's currently the standard poses problems because it makes the character infoboxes nigh illegible. I wonder if there's a way to make their background simply reflect the background of the page, but my experience with coding is limited. CorbeauKarasu 13:40, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Character page for the 'Drachman Commander'
I think the man who leads Drachman forces against Briggs deserves a page (we have pages for other minor unnamed characters, like Rich Couple), but what should we call him? Is there a generic name for a military leader, something isn't associated with any rank? --Kiadony 07:48, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

I guess 'Commander' could mean the rank, or just someone who commands others. I think 'Drachman Commander' is fine.--Full Metal Fan 18:08, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'll create a page, we can discuss it anytime anyway. Kiadony 11:37, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but...
I'm leaving here.

Wikipedia just decided to force the godawful design onto everyone with no way to change it back. That completely ruins it for me. There are not words strong enough to describe how much I thoroughly detest it. And now that I'm stuck, I can't even come here anymore.

That's a pretty godawful design. If you ever find a way to revert it, please tell me. (All I want back is having the recent changes box brought back). The alternate to the new one is pretty close, but it's missing it. Why is that so taboo? The biggest joke is "We're awaiting your feedback" and 90% of everyone says "It's crap" and they still go through with it. How about listening to the feedback, idiots? If they had just left in the features I like, I wouldn't have a problem with it. So much for asking what people thought; they don't care, it was just an act "See, we're gathering feedback", yet they did nothing. If those features come back, I'd be cool. Until then though, it was thoroughly ruined it for me. This wiki's pretty much filled now anyway.

Later.--Tommy-Vercetti 16:06, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Is there anyway to change this godawful red background back to the way it was? We can't change it back from white? I'd be willing to customize this awful layout if we can present it better. I just miss the recent activity box; I used that all the time. --Tommy-Vercetti 19:34, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Yeah, I thought maybe it was possible to change the background on the monobook option. I've been to lots of other wikis that use it and they didn't have this red. It must be changable. Try and see if it might be.

As for preferences, I'd much rather do the monobook than the new wikia. I cannot stand the layout on that. It looks dreadful in every aspect; I mean at least this one is KINDA like the old one. View any of our pages in the new wiki style; it's awful beyond belief.

I wouldn't even care if it had the "Recent changes" box that we've always had. (I also hate how hard editing is now. Before we could drag pictures, and now everything is just in code. Pain in the ass.) I'd love to help you see if we can change the color on monobook to something more custom (since I've seen it before) but since you have access to the wiki and other kind of stuff like that, you might be able to find it moreso than I.--Tommy-Vercetti 20:42, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Bloody hell! The new look and the monobook are both more disgusting than I could ever imagine. Is wikia trying to commit suicide, or are they just incredibly idiotic? I agree with Tommy-Vercetti that it would look a lot better with monobook rather than this new crap, but I wouldn't be able to survive without the news feed, it let us get rid of troll edits so easily.--Fullmetal Fan 01:39, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Seems like I'm the only one who doesn't mind these new skins at all >.< I've learned to cope with sucky interfaces during my life on the Internets; I just wish someone fixed the infoboxes. Kiadony 10:33, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

The black colour scheme is a lot nicer, but nowhere near where it was before. Good job anyway!--Fullmetal Fan 03:47, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hypocrisy
What I hate most is, they seem to have split the features between them. They wonder why everyone liked Monaco... how about, because it had EVERYTHING?

The red one (Monobook) looks better for sure, but it lacks the features, like recent activity boxes, etc. It's archaic in design.

The "new look" has the boxes, but my biggest beef is how it CONDENSES everything into a tiny box in the middle, leaving bare sides? Why? It ruins pages, it just crams everything together. If they would just WIDEN it out, I'd be just fine with it. That seriously ruins it. And... GASP if they actually widened the new look, it'd almost by like... GASP... Monaco! But in all honesty, it has almost no usability; there's no way to view history, editing is a nightmare. It's like... I thought the point of these sites was to EDIT information, why the hell would they create something so insanely unresponsive and tacky... that also doesn't even function for its purpose?

Why change something that works? The "logic" behind this is just completely retarded.--Tommy-Vercetti 17:13, November 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * You're assuming that these people are thinking, sentient beings. I doubt they're even as intelligent as a snake or a baked potato.  Once they've killed their host (Wikia) they'll simply move on to another.  Which will be the next to fall?  Youtube?  Facebook?--Fullmetal Fan 03:46, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

What's your opinion
On moving?

From what I've seen, we lose nothing and get a variety of better skins to choose from, customizable as well.

I don't see why we would it. I can't even edit pages with that new skin, amazing how the "edit" button doesn't even work.

It's sad when Monobook is the best chance you get. The more wikipedias that leave, the more they'll get the message not to thrust their crap down on people. --Tommy-Vercetti 14:52, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

24.186.189.173
Hi there, nice to meet you again. I'm having trouble with lots of pages on all the characters who appeared in the 2003-2004 anime series of Fullmetal Alchemist. I watch all the 51 episodes of the anime, and I'm trying to improve the 2003 anime content on character pages such as Edward, Alphonse, Winry, and other characters who appeared in the 2003-2004 anime series. I'm saying lets get all the info from that anime please, you know for what the characters did and do in that anime and put nessesscary things. I really need help please. Thank you. So, don't you think my opnions are good or bad? O:> 24.186.189.173 November 9, 2010 at 9:04 p.m. (UTC)

what the fck you ignoring me for
I was just hoping you can please help me improve the 2003 anime contents on characters pages. But you fcking ignored me. And that dumb ass mother fker Fullmetal Fan called me a jackass. The 2003 anime's beggining part follows the manga alittle closely. 24.189.186.173 (UTC) November 16, 2010 at 12:28 p.m.

I called you a jackass because you deleted whole sections of the Edward page. That's not editing, that's vandalism.--Fullmetal Fan 02:36, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Infoboxes... Again
Hm, appears like the Homunculi infoboxes are still broken. Somehow, I haven't noticed earlier... And I hope I'm not the only one seeing this. --Kiadony 19:18, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Speaking of infoboxes, I would like to see characters' statuses (alive or deceased) on their page. I know there is already a category for this, but I feel it would do much better at the top of a character's page. Oh, and Kiadony, I'm not seeing anything wrong with the Homunculus infoboxes, so either the problem is on your end, or it's been fixed.--Fullmetal Fan 08:29, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the Homunculus infoboxes, I realize they still have the same error (the blank categories still appear on the page). When I altered the regular character infoboxes, I left those of the Homunculi alone in case something went wrong. I think I would fix them, it just might require finagling the new code a bit. Regarding the Deceased tag, I've always been a bit wary about that, since I'm sure people who haven't yet finished the manga or anime drop by here from time to time and, while a certain level of common sense is a factor in avoiding spoilers, emblazoning "this character dies" at the top of each relevant page might be a bit tactless. That being said, however, I realize that Hohenheim and Hughes have both the Deceased category atop their page and have their date of death inside the "age" category of their character box, so what I'm saying might be irrelevant. But if you're saying we should have an "alive or dead" category, I'll disagree. I say a deceased category marker is enough and we should include the fact that said character deceased in the infobox only if we can verify their age at the time of death or something. I'm reluctant to add things like that to the Homunculi's character boxes, since their age is ofen there, but if you wanted to mark (deceased) after their age, I suppose I couldn't rightly stop you. CorbeauKarasu 13:59, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

So... Are you planning to fix them after all? --Kiadony 09:05, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

What the heck man O.O
On the List of Fullmetal Alchemist characters, the content "Elric Family" counts from Edward Elric, the Fullmetal Alchemist, Alphonse Elric, Trisha Elric, and Van Hohenheim. SHEESH!! On the Homunculi content, its Father, then Pride (because hes the first Homunculus), then the other characters that are older or who are young. Remember go from Old to Young, starting with Father. D:<

24.189.186.173 at 10:05 p.m. on November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Each category is structured in alphabetical order. CorbeauKarasu 04:23, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Categories bar
Is there a way to fix the Categories bar that appears at the bottom of the articles? I find yellow on white quite unreadable. --Kiadony 09:02, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that too, I have to look from the perfect angle to see what the categories are. Maybe the gold font on a crimson background would work, if you could use the colour of Flamel's Crest from the wallpaper.--Fullmetal Fan 19:51, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Copyright issue
I noticed that the short brief summaries that are used in the Brotherhood episodes are copied off from the descriptions on Hulu (The kind that have to be highlighted with the mouse for the details at the best). Other than possible rewriting the short summaries for that series, I was thinking of using a similar treatment for the 2003 series. What is your thoughts on this? -Adv193 01:28, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Had to check on that, but anyway since I completed the 2003 anime series episode summaries then it would be a good time to do it at any moment. -Adv193 05:39, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

The other pictures
I saw you deleted the doubles that the weirdo from yesterday uploaded, but you might as well delete them all, save for that last Winry picture. The ones with the Japan quake warning will never be used and it's just a waste to even keep them. What do you think?Tommy-Vercetti 23:55, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

About Lust's Last Words,
You got that from another video of the Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 19: Death of the Undying (2009 series). Many Japanese dubs and English subs videos are different. I like Lust's last words in the English dub better.


 * I'm pretty sure that subtitles are superior to the dub, and the manga is superior to the subtitles.--Fullmetal Fan 19:35, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

vanessa

 * Vanessa's VA is Leah Clark/ Seiko Ueda
 * Knox's son Takashi Oohara
 * Knox's wife Junko Kitanishi
 * Flower Seller (Grandma) Chie Sato
 * briggs gray beardo- Liam.
 * briggs gray beardo- Liam.
 * briggs gray beardo- Liam.

New pictures
How did you add all those pictures in the Al page without the annoying captions box?

Unless the pictures are strictly that size, I can't find any other way to shrink it. But they're not, you shrank them and they still come out like that. We have to start doing that everywhere. I'd like to learn how to do it.Tommy-Vercetti 22:57, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wikia Anime on Twitter
Hello, I'm Kate from the Wikia Content team. We are trying to create a WikiaAnime Twitter group, where all of the amazing wikis can come together and share their most exciting information, and hopefully get a lot of new users! To join, all you need to do is post this Twitter button and tweet list on your main page.



Then you can visit the Anime Twitter Suggestions Page and post tweets you'd like to see, with links back to your wiki.

Please share this with your other members and admins and see if it's something they'd be interested in joining! Let me know if you have any questions, and we hope to see you there!

Kate.moon 08:22, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hey,

I just wanted to let you know that I put the Anime Twitterfeed on the mainpage. It's been doing really well for other anime wikis and I hope that it'll help you guys get more traffic and users as well!

Kate.moon 21:30, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm completely in favor of removing that for a few reasons:

1. Twitter is overrated

2. We get enough hits from what I see

3. The last thing I want to see is "news" on the other pathetic anime wikis (seriously, I think this truly is the best written on, and the ONLY one which doesn't use DUBS as its information source. Huge plus.

4. See #3, putting this wiki on the same level as those is disgusting. We've all worked too hard here just to go in the "anime" loop, full of some of the worst written wikis you'll ever see.

That's just my feelings on it. Tommy-Vercetti 21:55, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Need a plan
Since we're both working on the expanded summaries for the 2009 series, I was thinking of putting together a plan to avoid getting in each other's way which is waste a time since I take around 2 hours to examine what I can and proofread my work. Course since I won't be doing manga chapter summaries for the time being that is also up for grabs for you to do since I am still buying the volumes little by little. I am only saying this since our work is getting too close to each other. -Adv193 06:03, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Small Issue
Both of the episodes I recently worked on Episodes 36 and 38 do not have any details on the Manga chapters they were based on in their Episode Notes section, but since you have an easier chance of knowing which links to use since I haven't gotten that far in my volume purchases then I thought to make you aware of this. -Adv193 00:12, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Izumi Curtis?

Okay early the article it mentions that Izumi was by fort briggs but it doesn't mention that Armstrong knew about them, or that the person she was seeking eventually became one of her allies. I feel that is kind of important.

Brocky10 08:13, March 9, 2011 (UTC)Brocky10

Izumi Curtis
Izumi Curtis?

Okay early the article it mentions that Izumi was by fort briggs but it doesn't mention that Armstrong knew about them, or that the person she was seeking eventually became one of her allies. I feel that is kind of important.

Brocky10 08:13, March 9, 2011 (UTC)Brocky10

Actually, Armstrong states rather clearly that the "mysterious attacks on the fort and its posts by a mysterious woman" occurred before she was stationed at Briggs. She was not in charge of the search and heard of the occurrence only through legend. And the article already mentions that Izumi's attacks were legendary. Though Izumi had a connection to Briggs, she and Armstrong had absolutely no connection until 1914. CorbeauKarasu 15:10, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

North City
Look at Episode 44 for more details. Also I should note there are only 6 episode summaries for Brotherhood left. -Adv193 23:29, March 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll leave it at bay for now unless if I find any evidence through the footage. Anyway since my work on the Pokemon site Bulbapedia is done now (Since I was helping with posting the English names for the new Black and White games) I can work on helping with the remaining summaries for Brotherhood. Also another oddity is why you removed the category's from those manga chapters since it really is something I don't expect to see on a wiki site. But anyway two things I will state is I'll keep my eye out for the english release date of Volume 27 the final Manga volume which should be listed in a few months and if you want we can divide the remaining episodes to 3 each (Episodes 51-52, 55-56, and 58-59). I'll also admit the reason why the 2003 anime came first was due to the lack of information on the articles regarding the events. -Adv193 23:51, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Bad News
It looks like Funimation's Simucast postings are going to be ending soon for FMAB, and so I am going to have to hurry and get the remaining episodes done while I have the chance. -Adv193 16:59, March 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * On Hulu, but from what I know through my experience with both Samurai Champloo and Trinity Blood is that it refers to all three of them since Samurai Champloo has been completely taken down and Trinity Blood has been reduced to the first four episodes which is also going to happen with FMAB in five days on Hulu. -Adv193 19:39, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

I've been thinking and, man, I'm sorry.
I just felt like an ass if I didn't at least try and apologize to you.

You have to realize my thing with dubs, YYH's in particular. YYH is what made me want to be a writer; I just loved the whole dynamic and the fun of the series, it really made me want to write just to be able to do the same thing. It was my inspiration, so the series is quite personal for me honestly.

Now imagine something similiarly close to you, book, movie, whatever. You'd want to see it how it was meant to be, right? Imagine your favorite american movie overseas where they took out any instances of plot just to make a bunch of lame jokes. That's the YYH dub for me.

I was surprised to see you, for example, the one guy who practically knows the entire FMA manga like the back of his hand, the one guy who can see even the tiniest of continuity errors. I thought with your love of the FMA manga, you'd also feel the same regarding dubs. The japanese versions of anime tends to follow the manga script first and foremost, right?

But, still, it's just a show. I just have this extremely adamant personality if you couldn't tell, where I fight to prove how right I am. I'm trying to mellow out with that, but yeah, now you know why exactly, and it wasn't right to cuss everyone out here over it. So, I wanted to apologize for that at least.Tommy-Vercetti 15:01, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

I believe this user should be banned
The one who thinks everything is sexist NaokaElric; not due to her views, but take a look at his/her talk page. She invited a discussion about her 'debate' if you could even call it that, and then deleted everything I wrote just because he/she didn't agree with it.

It's so obvious that this person is only here merely to cause trouble. Nothing but just deleting and stouting her superority, hell, and even vandalizing articles on it.

Maybe not this moment, but if it keeps up, which I have this funny feeling it will, you should consider it. Tommy-Vercetti 14:55, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Banning.
I am not here to cause trouble. I just wanted to expression an opinion. Please do not ban me. I just cannot undertand why expressing my opinion on here is bad. I was only trying to share a point. I knew that profile would be reverted. I was bored an wanted to see what would happen, honestly. As I said to that other person. I saw some funny wikipedia edits on youtube, and wanted to try it out myself like an idiot. I am not swearing or being agressive, I am simply want the FMA fanbase to be more open and try to accually think about what I am saying and not slander it as it is not praisig the series. I do like FMA, just not what I feel is sexist.

I did not mean to delete those messges, really I did not.

Again, I am sorry, I will not do it again. I will only edit intelligentily from now on. "If Harry Potter’s so magical, why can't he cure his own eyesight and get laid?" - Frankie Boyle 16:00, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Too about this, truthfully, that she won't be causing more of a commotion.

I honestly would have no qualms whatsoever about her being banned. Whatsoever. Tommy-Vercetti 19:44, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Clean up
Just because your talk page is so full, you might want to consider cleaning it up by archiving posts by year. I don't know how it's done, but I've seen top admins on other wikis do it so their talk page isn't super long. Just a suggestion.--Fullmetal Fan 20:23, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe talk pages are to be archived, not cleaned up. --kiadony 06:48, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Than was my suggestion, :)--Fullmetal Fan 14:25, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Text Colour
Hey, I'm trying to add a template, but I want some of the text to be the gold colour that we use for links and such. Can you tell me what the colour number is and/or where I can find it? Thanks.--Fullmetal Fan 04:23, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess the hex for it is FFD700. --kiadony 17:14, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I added a template for policy pages, so if we want to add any pages about the wiki's policy, just add "Policy" in {{ brackets.  here is the page if you want to edit it in any way.--Fullmetal Fan 18:17, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

...my apologies.

Den Image
I see. Thank you for your clear respone and not cussing me out.

A few Questions
Have you watched both the series?

I have only watched FMAB, and wanted to know whether FMA is worth watching.

Another hing I wanted to know was whether you know the soundtrack that plays in the Episode 50 of Brotherhood, when, the revolution begins in full swing? (the one that plays when the truck with weapoery comes)

-- Nisheeth (Leave message) --  07:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * The original series is...odd. I like it, but it's not one of my favourite animes. It gets better in the second box set, which is episode 26-51. The first half of the first box set I find really boring, but like I said, it does get better. I don't want to tell you either way what to do, I suggest you go through some of the synopses of the first series and see what you think of it.--Fullmetal Fan 17:12, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you want to see the original story of FMA, read the manga first and foremost, but the 2009 anime does follow its story, but leaves out several things.
 * I personally do not care for the original anime one little bit. It's insanely melodramatic and cliche and I honestly cannot even think up a single positive thing to note about it.
 * Though, I agree with FMF, though, if you read each episode synopsis, you're just going to spoil it. So, don't go too overboard with that. Tommy-Vercetti 18:43, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * I have already seen the 2009 sereies and read the manga. I just wanted some good series to watch so I was asking for an opinion. I think i will five it a go.
 * But what about the soundtrack?
 * sorry forgot to sign -- Nisheeth (Leave message) --  07:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * sorry forgot to sign <font color = "#0000ff">-- <font color ="#0000af">Nisheeth <font color = "#0000af">(Leave message) <font color = "#0000ff">--  07:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * sorry forgot to sign <font color = "#0000ff">-- <font color ="#0000af">Nisheeth <font color = "#0000af">(Leave message) <font color = "#0000ff">--  07:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ling Yao
Fixed the rest of Redbird41's bad edits on the Ling Yao Page. I did it by copying and the version of the page before his edits and pasting it which I prefer to do as a last resort if the normal revert doesn't work. Either this user is a vandal, or a bad editor with no idea to how Wikicode works. -Adv193 04:45, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lin Yao - 1
I wanted to apologize for my bad edit on the Lin Yao Page. It was not my intention. I'm not a vandal, and it's not that I don't know most of the rules of wikipedia (unless the rules on this wikia are different from the main wiki), it was an honest mistake. When I noticed my mistake I went to fix it by repasting the text that was there before my edit, but it didn't allow me too. I also looked for a history tab to revert my edit, but I couldn't find it. So again, I want to apologize for what happened to the Lin Yao Page. Redbird41 19:50, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Summaries
Now that FMAB is back on Hulu again, I am going to finish the rest of the episode summaries and since I've finished half of them yesterday, I only have 56, and 58-59 left. Right now I am working on 56, and if wish to help or not I should have them done by today. -Adv193 15:45, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * From what I previously learned from Trinity Blood, is that the postings come and go each time from Hulu each time, kinda like what they are doing with the episodes of the One Piece dubs past Episode 12. Also in case you don't know yet the first series is on Hulu Plus. It was because of them returning the first series that I also helped solved the earlier dispute, since all my submissions come from episode footage. Even if FMAB goes out again, it can still pop up again in a few months time. -Adv193 16:06, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm done with that episode, and will be indisposed for a few hours, but when I get back all start working for another summary. If you wish to help, let me know since it would be a waste of time to both work on the same summary for one of the two remaining episode summaries. Also, I am thinking that the episode guide page could use an upgrade once the remaining summaries are dealt with. -Adv193 17:22, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hi!
Cool site dude, I read it a lot. Is there anything I can help with? Archiving you talk page maybe? Haha. 10X Kamehameha 09:14, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

All done
Well all the episode summaries for both FMA anime series have been completed. But regarding the Episode Guide page I am thinking some type of template can be put be put up that can include a minor summary and original airdate. Right now I am finding that section is a bit underdeveloped and could use some work so it can be more on par with designs other wikis are using (anime and non-anime wikis). Since I used to write minor summaries for the Simpsons on Wikipedia a few years back I can handle that task, though only for the non-OVA episodes. I would like to finish this off by stating that I hope the new movie will do well and the Viz cover designs for the last few volumes are already on the internet. -Adv193 04:15, June 20, 2011 (UTC)=

New Categories
please don't revome Male Characters and Female Characters i need to create it by JINIERULES 13:10, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Why did you think all that was necessary? CK removed it for a good reason and you merely wasted your time by creating it. Most people here can tell what gender a character is just by the name alone. Tommy-Vercetti 15:11, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Considering the way the site looks and the way you handle good faith edits no wonder this site is severely lacking in quality. Good luck on the bad job. Ill take this as a sign not to return here. -- 00:11, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

^Ahahaha. Go find another wikia anywhere that's as complete and well-written as this one. And, we're only this complete because we don't allow stupid edits by... hmm, what's the word... idiots like you. Have fun! We won't miss you. Tommy-Vercetti 13:05, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

You mind telling us why the wiki is so bad? All you seem to have done is break up the articles with unnecessary headers. For the record, a wiki doesn't have to look like the one you're an admin on to be good. Fullmetal Fan 18:54, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Flamel
Why do you revert my edits? The current picture has some really ugly jpeg artifacts. Do you object to the color of the new picture? I could make a red, cleaned up version of the current one and I asked a DA user, if I can use his svg of the flamel symbol... --Boris Baran 09:39, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Need Help
Once you get back on to the site I could really use some help in blocking some IP Vandals, since they are continuing to add a lot of nonsense and inappropriate based vandal edits. -Adv193 21:15, July 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, don't forget 2.98.119.100 which was also heavily involved with the massive vandalism. I think there are more IPs besides these two primary ones, though they are not as large. -Adv193 23:09, July 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Got one more from yesterday 68.3.204.27, did two vandal edits, could be the same guy as the two other IPs. Checked and found no other IP besides that. -Adv193 18:16, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Regarding my edits
I feel I should have brought up my intentions before doing all those edits to the Japanese names, but I didn't, so for that, I apologize.

Anyway, while it appears you're against the use of the "Nihongo" template, I couldn't help but notice a lack of consistency among the display of the Japanese names. Some are written in parentheses, completely italicized (like so), some are written with only the parentheses italicized (like so), and some are just not italicized at all (like so). I also remember there being a case where some names were written in parentheses with the word "Japanese" written next to it (Japanese: like so), but they seem to have been edited out.

I again apologize for getting carried away and editing without anyone's consent instead of bringing it up beforehand. I don't know if there's any Manual of Style displaying a singular, formal style of writing articles, or any other guidelines to follow for that matter, or if it even really matters at all. I just felt the need to help add some form of consistency, but by having not helped and now making it help you by not helping at all, I will no longer help. Unless, of course, there is something I can do to make up for it and help (besides not helping). Immblueversion 23:53, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Categorization
I raised the issue of categorization with regards to the Weapons category that I created as a subcategory of both technology and items here. Is there something I'm missing? BrokenSphere (Talk) 05:37, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the explanation. I can see your point - however I still think that putting an article in both parent and child categories is not using the category system as it is intended to function and at the heart of it, is inefficient.  The point of subcategories is to focus subjects within one or multiple categories while still keeping them within the larger parent categories - one need only move up the category tree to see that nothing is lost by subcategorization.  This negates the need to put an article into multiple categories and people can always click on subcategories within the parents to see what is in there.  The 3 examples would still be within the items and technology categories, just not visible immediately because they would be in the weapons subcategory.  However if those are the house rules on this wiki, then that's what I'll work with, unless of course, there's a general consensus to change this.   BrokenSphere  (Talk) 17:31, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Roy Mustang

 * Uh, just to point out that edit you reverted from what I saw looked like it was fixing a grammar problem, because what it looks like now is bad and confusing grammar, which I usually tend to fix when I detect it. -Adv193 05:15, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, was that you? Either way, the word I'm using there is "wont" and not "won't". I don't do it sadistically, but I prefer to use words that both fit context well and help readers expand their vocabulary. CorbeauKarasu 05:35, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, was that you? Either way, the word I'm using there is "wont" and not "won't". I don't do it sadistically, but I prefer to use words that both fit context well and help readers expand their vocabulary. CorbeauKarasu 05:35, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * I am referring to the whole phrase "is wont to" and I am finding that "is" and "to" are the parts that in the grammar that reads funny and knocks the sentance out of whack. That part is what needs to be dealt with. -Adv193 05:52, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's how the word is used, though. It's the most common phrase in which to use the word "wont". eg. "I am wont to dally", "she is wont to be tardy". CorbeauKarasu 06:05, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * For future reference: Wont - one's customary behaviour - Constance, as was her wont, had paid her little attention.

--From Oxford online English dictionary. Fullmetal Fan 06:29, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalizing user
As if it weren't obvious beforehand, this wani-wani idiot has now taken the liberty of spamming my profile page multiple times (he's doing it at the moment I type this), when I told him to stop continually reverting yours and my edits of his lackluster edits.

If that weren't proof enough, I think he should be banned by now.

http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wani-wan123 Tommy-Vercetti 20:07, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever you did, it didn't work. He's still at it. I would just delete his account. I've seen you do that before. Tommy-Vercetti 20:28, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Not to defend the blocked user's actions, but I noticed that there was a lack of prior communication with him in an attempt to point out what was problematic about his edits or explain how he could contribute more productively. Then the first message he gets is an inflammatory one. At the same time, he didn't communicate with anyone either to discuss conflicts except for making vandalous edits at the end. Moving forward though, to prevent or minimize this sort of thing from coming up, I think that it would be good to explain standards and house rules, as well as point out guidelines. I notice that there is no automatic message sent out when someone, registered user or IP makes their first edit, maybe it could be enabled so that the relevant help sections can be pointed out and editors welcomed. BrokenSphere  (Talk) 22:23, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * You make that sound like I directly insulted him, with just a "F U MAN" While it's true that I am far more quickto dig into someone, you should take into account his previous behavior.
 * Both CK and myself had numerously reverted edits he continually insisted on making, even with CK plain as day telling him why he was undoing it and to stop making those edits. Check it yourself, but yet he still persisted. Then, after me telling him to cut it out, what does he resort to? Vandalizing. CK gave him a chance, "If you come back..." blahblah, and even after THAT, he vandalized two more pages. I think you're giving the guy a little too much credit to think that he was an innocent victim of misunderstanding. Tommy-Vercetti 22:30, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Both CK and myself had numerously reverted edits he continually insisted on making, even with CK plain as day telling him why he was undoing it and to stop making those edits. Check it yourself, but yet he still persisted. Then, after me telling him to cut it out, what does he resort to? Vandalizing. CK gave him a chance, "If you come back..." blahblah, and even after THAT, he vandalized two more pages. I think you're giving the guy a little too much credit to think that he was an innocent victim of misunderstanding. Tommy-Vercetti 22:30, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm just going by the edit history of Wani-wan's talk page. If there was prior communication I wasn't aware of it. Yes, you guys were making it clear in the edit histories that the edits weren't productive, but no one sent a talk page message. My point is that the initial communication was delayed and when it did come, I don't know about you, but when the first message I ever get on a wiki is someone calling me an idiot and threatening to ban me, then sure, I might fly off the handle and try to retaliate. By the time the final warning came in this was trying to put out a forest fire with a squirt gun. BrokenSphere  (Talk) 22:45, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, you're making the assumption that I use "you'll get banned because I don't like you" which isn't the case. I told him he was going to get banned if his current behavior kept up. If he didn't do that behavior in the first place, I wouldn't have said it. Tommy-Vercetti 22:57, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, you're making the assumption that I use "you'll get banned because I don't like you" which isn't the case. I told him he was going to get banned if his current behavior kept up. If he didn't do that behavior in the first place, I wouldn't have said it. Tommy-Vercetti 22:57, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright, this is a distinction. But when the second sentence is "We've had some idiots before, but you exceed all of them," this is hardly conducive to promoting rationale action on the part of the recipient, especially when nothing was said before. So of course the situation escalated from there. BrokenSphere  (Talk) 23:08, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, we tried disussing it with him when we reverted his edits, and again, he didn't listen. And I know he read them and again scoffed them off. Even after a week, same crap. Never learned at all. Sorry, but I call it as I see it. Tommy-Vercetti 23:14, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, we tried disussing it with him when we reverted his edits, and again, he didn't listen. And I know he read them and again scoffed them off. Even after a week, same crap. Never learned at all. Sorry, but I call it as I see it. Tommy-Vercetti 23:14, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * If edit summaries count as discussing (isn't that what talk pages are for?), then yes, this did happen. BrokenSphere  (Talk) 23:17, July 19, 2011 (UTC)`
 * Doesn't mean it's solely limited only to talk pages. I've gotten plenty of information just from the others leaving edit summaries. And, like I said, he made it very clear that he saw those and again paid them no mind. Tommy-Vercetti 23:20, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Doesn't mean it's solely limited only to talk pages. I've gotten plenty of information just from the others leaving edit summaries. And, like I said, he made it very clear that he saw those and again paid them no mind. Tommy-Vercetti 23:20, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK. Obviously what's done is done and nobody, myself included, wants to see this user continue the same pattern of unproductive edits if he returns under the same user name or comes up with a way to bypass the block. However, as I said in my first post, let's use this as an example of what we can do moving forward to minimize or prevent these types of incidents. Explaining why changes are done in edit summaries helps, but if this isn't enough or isn't being noticed, then why not also send a follow up message as well. The little window in the lower left will pop up and then it will take someone to their talk page. And to take a page from the Simplified Ruleset, in particular #2 (Be civil), as well as #4 (When in doubt, take it to the talk page) and #7-10 (assume good faith, don't revert good faith edits, no personal attacks, and be graceful). As you said in regards to something else, "it's not difficult." BrokenSphere  (Talk) 01:32, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Broken's right. I feel that this could perhaps have all been avoided with a bit more communication on my part. I have a habit of being passive when it comes to human relationships on this site and evidence suggests I should try to curtail that. I did mention in the edit history what was wrong, but it was quite likely that Wani never saw my message. His actions toward the end cannot be condoned, but it may have helped for me to leave messages on his talk page or if the use of insults while dealing with him could have been avoided. "Assuming good faith and being graceful" is something I aspire to on this site, but we could probably all do a bit better on that front. CorbeauKarasu 01:44, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * There is a bot that will autowelcome any editor like I mentioned, but it's not activated here. The function is pretty common on other wikis and the message goes out as soon as any new user hits publish.  However I believe this is an admin function that needs to be enabled.  It usually will say:


 * ==Welcome==
 * Hi, welcome to x Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the x page.


 * Please leave a message on my (Admin X's) talk page if I can help with anything! -- Admin X


 * BrokenSphere (Talk) 01:50, July 20, 2011 (UTC)