Talk:King Bradley

It's rather difficult and cumbersome to always have to type Führer with an umlaut, so I think that it would be best if typing "Fuhrer", "Fuhrer King Bradley" or simply "King Bradley" could reroute to this page. Or perhaps remove the "Führer" from the article title altogether, since none of the other characters seem to have their military rank as part of their article title. --CorbeauKarasu 00:54, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * How is he referred to in the anime/manga most often? I recall seeing King Bradley over Furher King Bradley, so maybe this is a change worth considering.--Mucho mas35 18:33, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * King Bradley is his name, Führer is his government title. Führer King Bradley or Führer Bradley are both appropriate, but no other military characters on this site have their rank or title in the heading for their character page, so it might be prudent to just shorten the article name (especially since there's a King Bradley article waiting to be made). But the prompt for the character, when you try to make a link to his page in another article, won't recognize the location unless Führer has an umlaut over the "u". That is the correct spelling, but I think typing Fuhrer King Bradley should redirect to this page so that we don't always have to use an umlaut when mentioning him in other articles. --CorbeauKarasu 05:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I know this is fairly old but perhaps this is still worth mentioning as another former possibily. Couldn't one have created the "Fuher King Bradley" and a "King Bradley" article and just do a redirct to "Führer King Bradley" that way the links work correctly along with the page being proper. Although I guess you were right with dropping it to keep it in line with the other military characters, but to me personally a "Führer" always deserve some form of special treatment, regardless of how evil they are. -- 15:34, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Trivia
i saw an amv in youtube that featured wrath and the eye that was coveres was the wrong one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxcfmkcg1OA&feature=related

did some event made his eyes switch, i didnt watch the full anime yet but when i see him his covered eye is his left eye but in the video its his right eye, or this might be something to add to a trivia section Dionit1 22:31, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Since there is already a page for Wrath, I feel like i want to shift this page to a more perspective-based article referring to King bradley's public face and public history, culminating in his "heroic" death as falsified by Mustang's group, at least as far as the manga storyline is concerned. it would, of course, note his true inhuman identity and make linked allusions to his nature and activity as Wrath. CorbeauKarasu 04:22, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Amestrian Stalin?
While links with Hitler are more than obvious, anybody else noticed parallelism with Iosif Stalin
 * Physical appearance
 * Being behind massive genocides in his own country
 * Internal struggle: Wrath's souls are said to been fighting each other until only one was left; Stalin slayed all his revolution comrades until he was alone in command.
 * Both Wrath's cold and focused expression and false joviality match Stalin's photos 1930-194x's


 * Also, wasn't Stalin the guy who completely falsified his own history so as to seem more impressive to the people? CorbeauKarasu 13:30, September 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * That can be said for lots of rulers though. History is written by the winners and the people in power. Fullmetal Fan 15:52, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Homunculi's Feelings
In this article it is mentioned that only human-based homunculi are able of feelings such as love or compassion. However I honestly think this is not true; Gluttony certainly felt a lot for Lust (he might even have seen a mother in her); the original Greed had feelings for his subordinates(even though he didn't want to admit it and overplayed it through calling them his possesions; Pride might have felt something for his foster mother and all of them(with the exception of Greed and maybe Wrath) seemed to regard Father as their real father( like Lust said in chapter 38; they have feelings for the person who created them, such as humans have feelings for their parents).

First, don't forget to sign your posts! ^^

Second, the things you have pointed don't necessarily configure as "human feelings", since all of them can be regarded as a refined sense of instinct. In the case of Gluttony, he feels attachment to Lust because, according to tradition, Gluttony is a "sin of the flesh", which is categorized as "derivatives from the sin of Lust", which explains perfectly the sense of Gluttony regarding Lust as a mother, cause, in fact, she is (semiotically speaking, of course!). Greed as well, since those same traditions regard Greed as a somewhat "positive sin" or a "sin with a positive origin/possibility of a positive use", precisely for being related to the idea of "becoming one with other things", or an "incentive to move onwards"... Pride has no fact to back up the idea he helds any attachments to his "mother" other than feeling "simpathetic" that she likes and protects him so. And all the homunculi feel a sort of devotion towards Father because he was the one who created them, but it's not a 'human feeling'.

Understand that, in a philosophical approach, "human feelings" are those related to a sense of self-sacrifice or non-selfishness and they are exclusive to human beings (in comparison to animals, for example, which does not mean animals are incapable of affection, only that those "sentiments" of all other species are different from the ones present in humans due to the capacity of conscious thought). They are deeply connected to the concept of Transcendence (a good example is the part showed at chapter 94~95) in the sense of looking beyond that which might result in a positive outcome for oneself, a sense of collective good at the expense of yourself. And the series makes it pretty clear that Homunculi neither have that, nor they consider it to be "good": they consider it to be a "human weakness".

So, that understanding of feelings are not the case: all those attitudes of the Homunculi are deeply connected to the sins they are originated from, cause, in a deeper meaning, they are the sins themselves.

If you still have doubts or hard time understanding this, I suggest you read Saint Thomas' essay on the Seven Deadly Sins in his "Sumula Theologiae". Turdaewen 16:52, January 16, 2012 (UTC)