User talk:CorbeauKarasu

Categories bar
Is there a way to fix the Categories bar that appears at the bottom of the articles? I find yellow on white quite unreadable. --Kiadony 09:02, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that too, I have to look from the perfect angle to see what the categories are. Maybe the gold font on a crimson background would work, if you could use the colour of Flamel's Crest from the wallpaper.--Fullmetal Fan 19:51, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Copyright issue
I noticed that the short brief summaries that are used in the Brotherhood episodes are copied off from the descriptions on Hulu (The kind that have to be highlighted with the mouse for the details at the best). Other than possible rewriting the short summaries for that series, I was thinking of using a similar treatment for the 2003 series. What is your thoughts on this? -Adv193 01:28, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Had to check on that, but anyway since I completed the 2003 anime series episode summaries then it would be a good time to do it at any moment. -Adv193 05:39, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

The other pictures
I saw you deleted the doubles that the weirdo from yesterday uploaded, but you might as well delete them all, save for that last Winry picture. The ones with the Japan quake warning will never be used and it's just a waste to even keep them. What do you think?Tommy-Vercetti 23:55, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

About Lust's Last Words,
You got that from another video of the Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 19: Death of the Undying (2009 series). Many Japanese dubs and English subs videos are different. I like Lust's last words in the English dub better.


 * I'm pretty sure that subtitles are superior to the dub, and the manga is superior to the subtitles.--Fullmetal Fan 19:35, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

vanessa

 * Vanessa's VA is Leah Clark/ Seiko Ueda
 * Knox's son Takashi Oohara
 * Knox's wife Junko Kitanishi
 * Flower Seller (Grandma) Chie Sato
 * briggs gray beardo- Liam.
 * briggs gray beardo- Liam.
 * briggs gray beardo- Liam.

New pictures
How did you add all those pictures in the Al page without the annoying captions box?

Unless the pictures are strictly that size, I can't find any other way to shrink it. But they're not, you shrank them and they still come out like that. We have to start doing that everywhere. I'd like to learn how to do it.Tommy-Vercetti 22:57, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wikia Anime on Twitter
Hello, I'm Kate from the Wikia Content team. We are trying to create a WikiaAnime Twitter group, where all of the amazing wikis can come together and share their most exciting information, and hopefully get a lot of new users! To join, all you need to do is post this Twitter button and tweet list on your main page.



Then you can visit the Anime Twitter Suggestions Page and post tweets you'd like to see, with links back to your wiki.

Please share this with your other members and admins and see if it's something they'd be interested in joining! Let me know if you have any questions, and we hope to see you there!

Kate.moon 08:22, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hey,

I just wanted to let you know that I put the Anime Twitterfeed on the mainpage. It's been doing really well for other anime wikis and I hope that it'll help you guys get more traffic and users as well!

Kate.moon 21:30, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm completely in favor of removing that for a few reasons:

1. Twitter is overrated

2. We get enough hits from what I see

3. The last thing I want to see is "news" on the other pathetic anime wikis (seriously, I think this truly is the best written on, and the ONLY one which doesn't use DUBS as its information source. Huge plus.

4. See #3, putting this wiki on the same level as those is disgusting. We've all worked too hard here just to go in the "anime" loop, full of some of the worst written wikis you'll ever see.

That's just my feelings on it. Tommy-Vercetti 21:55, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Need a plan
Since we're both working on the expanded summaries for the 2009 series, I was thinking of putting together a plan to avoid getting in each other's way which is waste a time since I take around 2 hours to examine what I can and proofread my work. Course since I won't be doing manga chapter summaries for the time being that is also up for grabs for you to do since I am still buying the volumes little by little. I am only saying this since our work is getting too close to each other. -Adv193 06:03, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Small Issue
Both of the episodes I recently worked on Episodes 36 and 38 do not have any details on the Manga chapters they were based on in their Episode Notes section, but since you have an easier chance of knowing which links to use since I haven't gotten that far in my volume purchases then I thought to make you aware of this. -Adv193 00:12, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Izumi Curtis?

Okay early the article it mentions that Izumi was by fort briggs but it doesn't mention that Armstrong knew about them, or that the person she was seeking eventually became one of her allies. I feel that is kind of important.

Brocky10 08:13, March 9, 2011 (UTC)Brocky10

Izumi Curtis
Izumi Curtis?

Okay early the article it mentions that Izumi was by fort briggs but it doesn't mention that Armstrong knew about them, or that the person she was seeking eventually became one of her allies. I feel that is kind of important.

Brocky10 08:13, March 9, 2011 (UTC)Brocky10

Actually, Armstrong states rather clearly that the "mysterious attacks on the fort and its posts by a mysterious woman" occurred before she was stationed at Briggs. She was not in charge of the search and heard of the occurrence only through legend. And the article already mentions that Izumi's attacks were legendary. Though Izumi had a connection to Briggs, she and Armstrong had absolutely no connection until 1914. CorbeauKarasu 15:10, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

North City
Look at Episode 44 for more details. Also I should note there are only 6 episode summaries for Brotherhood left. -Adv193 23:29, March 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll leave it at bay for now unless if I find any evidence through the footage. Anyway since my work on the Pokemon site Bulbapedia is done now (Since I was helping with posting the English names for the new Black and White games) I can work on helping with the remaining summaries for Brotherhood. Also another oddity is why you removed the category's from those manga chapters since it really is something I don't expect to see on a wiki site. But anyway two things I will state is I'll keep my eye out for the english release date of Volume 27 the final Manga volume which should be listed in a few months and if you want we can divide the remaining episodes to 3 each (Episodes 51-52, 55-56, and 58-59). I'll also admit the reason why the 2003 anime came first was due to the lack of information on the articles regarding the events. -Adv193 23:51, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Bad News
It looks like Funimation's Simucast postings are going to be ending soon for FMAB, and so I am going to have to hurry and get the remaining episodes done while I have the chance. -Adv193 16:59, March 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * On Hulu, but from what I know through my experience with both Samurai Champloo and Trinity Blood is that it refers to all three of them since Samurai Champloo has been completely taken down and Trinity Blood has been reduced to the first four episodes which is also going to happen with FMAB in five days on Hulu. -Adv193 19:39, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

I've been thinking and, man, I'm sorry.
I just felt like an ass if I didn't at least try and apologize to you.

You have to realize my thing with dubs, YYH's in particular. YYH is what made me want to be a writer; I just loved the whole dynamic and the fun of the series, it really made me want to write just to be able to do the same thing. It was my inspiration, so the series is quite personal for me honestly.

Now imagine something similiarly close to you, book, movie, whatever. You'd want to see it how it was meant to be, right? Imagine your favorite american movie overseas where they took out any instances of plot just to make a bunch of lame jokes. That's the YYH dub for me.

I was surprised to see you, for example, the one guy who practically knows the entire FMA manga like the back of his hand, the one guy who can see even the tiniest of continuity errors. I thought with your love of the FMA manga, you'd also feel the same regarding dubs. The japanese versions of anime tends to follow the manga script first and foremost, right?

But, still, it's just a show. I just have this extremely adamant personality if you couldn't tell, where I fight to prove how right I am. I'm trying to mellow out with that, but yeah, now you know why exactly, and it wasn't right to cuss everyone out here over it. So, I wanted to apologize for that at least.Tommy-Vercetti 15:01, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

I believe this user should be banned
The one who thinks everything is sexist NaokaElric; not due to her views, but take a look at his/her talk page. She invited a discussion about her 'debate' if you could even call it that, and then deleted everything I wrote just because he/she didn't agree with it.

It's so obvious that this person is only here merely to cause trouble. Nothing but just deleting and stouting her superority, hell, and even vandalizing articles on it.

Maybe not this moment, but if it keeps up, which I have this funny feeling it will, you should consider it. Tommy-Vercetti 14:55, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Banning.
I am not here to cause trouble. I just wanted to expression an opinion. Please do not ban me. I just cannot undertand why expressing my opinion on here is bad. I was only trying to share a point. I knew that profile would be reverted. I was bored an wanted to see what would happen, honestly. As I said to that other person. I saw some funny wikipedia edits on youtube, and wanted to try it out myself like an idiot. I am not swearing or being agressive, I am simply want the FMA fanbase to be more open and try to accually think about what I am saying and not slander it as it is not praisig the series. I do like FMA, just not what I feel is sexist.

I did not mean to delete those messges, really I did not.

Again, I am sorry, I will not do it again. I will only edit intelligentily from now on. "If Harry Potter’s so magical, why can't he cure his own eyesight and get laid?" - Frankie Boyle 16:00, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Too about this, truthfully, that she won't be causing more of a commotion.

I honestly would have no qualms whatsoever about her being banned. Whatsoever. Tommy-Vercetti 19:44, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Clean up
Just because your talk page is so full, you might want to consider cleaning it up by archiving posts by year. I don't know how it's done, but I've seen top admins on other wikis do it so their talk page isn't super long. Just a suggestion.--Fullmetal Fan 20:23, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe talk pages are to be archived, not cleaned up. --kiadony 06:48, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Than was my suggestion, :)--Fullmetal Fan 14:25, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Text Colour
Hey, I'm trying to add a template, but I want some of the text to be the gold colour that we use for links and such. Can you tell me what the colour number is and/or where I can find it? Thanks.--Fullmetal Fan 04:23, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess the hex for it is FFD700. --kiadony 17:14, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I added a template for policy pages, so if we want to add any pages about the wiki's policy, just add "Policy" in {{ brackets.  here is the page if you want to edit it in any way.--Fullmetal Fan 18:17, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

...my apologies.

Den Image
I see. Thank you for your clear respone and not cussing me out.

A few Questions
Have you watched both the series?

I have only watched FMAB, and wanted to know whether FMA is worth watching.

Another hing I wanted to know was whether you know the soundtrack that plays in the Episode 50 of Brotherhood, when, the revolution begins in full swing? (the one that plays when the truck with weapoery comes)

-- Nisheeth (Leave message) --  07:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * The original series is...odd. I like it, but it's not one of my favourite animes. It gets better in the second box set, which is episode 26-51. The first half of the first box set I find really boring, but like I said, it does get better. I don't want to tell you either way what to do, I suggest you go through some of the synopses of the first series and see what you think of it.--Fullmetal Fan 17:12, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you want to see the original story of FMA, read the manga first and foremost, but the 2009 anime does follow its story, but leaves out several things.
 * I personally do not care for the original anime one little bit. It's insanely melodramatic and cliche and I honestly cannot even think up a single positive thing to note about it.
 * Though, I agree with FMF, though, if you read each episode synopsis, you're just going to spoil it. So, don't go too overboard with that. Tommy-Vercetti 18:43, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * I have already seen the 2009 sereies and read the manga. I just wanted some good series to watch so I was asking for an opinion. I think i will five it a go.
 * But what about the soundtrack?
 * sorry forgot to sign -- Nisheeth (Leave message) --  07:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * sorry forgot to sign -- Nisheeth (Leave message) --  07:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * sorry forgot to sign -- Nisheeth (Leave message) <font color = "#0000ff">--  07:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ling Yao
Fixed the rest of Redbird41's bad edits on the Ling Yao Page. I did it by copying and the version of the page before his edits and pasting it which I prefer to do as a last resort if the normal revert doesn't work. Either this user is a vandal, or a bad editor with no idea to how Wikicode works. -Adv193 04:45, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lin Yao - 1
I wanted to apologize for my bad edit on the Lin Yao Page. It was not my intention. I'm not a vandal, and it's not that I don't know most of the rules of wikipedia (unless the rules on this wikia are different from the main wiki), it was an honest mistake. When I noticed my mistake I went to fix it by repasting the text that was there before my edit, but it didn't allow me too. I also looked for a history tab to revert my edit, but I couldn't find it. So again, I want to apologize for what happened to the Lin Yao Page. Redbird41 19:50, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Summaries
Now that FMAB is back on Hulu again, I am going to finish the rest of the episode summaries and since I've finished half of them yesterday, I only have 56, and 58-59 left. Right now I am working on 56, and if wish to help or not I should have them done by today. -Adv193 15:45, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * From what I previously learned from Trinity Blood, is that the postings come and go each time from Hulu each time, kinda like what they are doing with the episodes of the One Piece dubs past Episode 12. Also in case you don't know yet the first series is on Hulu Plus. It was because of them returning the first series that I also helped solved the earlier dispute, since all my submissions come from episode footage. Even if FMAB goes out again, it can still pop up again in a few months time. -Adv193 16:06, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm done with that episode, and will be indisposed for a few hours, but when I get back all start working for another summary. If you wish to help, let me know since it would be a waste of time to both work on the same summary for one of the two remaining episode summaries. Also, I am thinking that the episode guide page could use an upgrade once the remaining summaries are dealt with. -Adv193 17:22, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hi!
Cool site dude, I read it a lot. Is there anything I can help with? Archiving you talk page maybe? Haha. 10X Kamehameha 09:14, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

All done
Well all the episode summaries for both FMA anime series have been completed. But regarding the Episode Guide page I am thinking some type of template can be put be put up that can include a minor summary and original airdate. Right now I am finding that section is a bit underdeveloped and could use some work so it can be more on par with designs other wikis are using (anime and non-anime wikis). Since I used to write minor summaries for the Simpsons on Wikipedia a few years back I can handle that task, though only for the non-OVA episodes. I would like to finish this off by stating that I hope the new movie will do well and the Viz cover designs for the last few volumes are already on the internet. -Adv193 04:15, June 20, 2011 (UTC)=

New Categories
please don't revome Male Characters and Female Characters i need to create it by JINIERULES 13:10, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Why did you think all that was necessary? CK removed it for a good reason and you merely wasted your time by creating it. Most people here can tell what gender a character is just by the name alone. Tommy-Vercetti 15:11, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Considering the way the site looks and the way you handle good faith edits no wonder this site is severely lacking in quality. Good luck on the bad job. Ill take this as a sign not to return here. -- 00:11, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

^Ahahaha. Go find another wikia anywhere that's as complete and well-written as this one. And, we're only this complete because we don't allow stupid edits by... hmm, what's the word... idiots like you. Have fun! We won't miss you. Tommy-Vercetti 13:05, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

You mind telling us why the wiki is so bad? All you seem to have done is break up the articles with unnecessary headers. For the record, a wiki doesn't have to look like the one you're an admin on to be good. Fullmetal Fan 18:54, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Flamel
Why do you revert my edits? The current picture has some really ugly jpeg artifacts. Do you object to the color of the new picture? I could make a red, cleaned up version of the current one and I asked a DA user, if I can use his svg of the flamel symbol... --Boris Baran 09:39, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Need Help
Once you get back on to the site I could really use some help in blocking some IP Vandals, since they are continuing to add a lot of nonsense and inappropriate based vandal edits. -Adv193 21:15, July 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, don't forget 2.98.119.100 which was also heavily involved with the massive vandalism. I think there are more IPs besides these two primary ones, though they are not as large. -Adv193 23:09, July 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Got one more from yesterday 68.3.204.27, did two vandal edits, could be the same guy as the two other IPs. Checked and found no other IP besides that. -Adv193 18:16, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Regarding my edits
I feel I should have brought up my intentions before doing all those edits to the Japanese names, but I didn't, so for that, I apologize.

Anyway, while it appears you're against the use of the "Nihongo" template, I couldn't help but notice a lack of consistency among the display of the Japanese names. Some are written in parentheses, completely italicized (like so), some are written with only the parentheses italicized (like so), and some are just not italicized at all (like so). I also remember there being a case where some names were written in parentheses with the word "Japanese" written next to it (Japanese: like so), but they seem to have been edited out.

I again apologize for getting carried away and editing without anyone's consent instead of bringing it up beforehand. I don't know if there's any Manual of Style displaying a singular, formal style of writing articles, or any other guidelines to follow for that matter, or if it even really matters at all. I just felt the need to help add some form of consistency, but by having not helped and now making it help you by not helping at all, I will no longer help. Unless, of course, there is something I can do to make up for it and help (besides not helping). Immblueversion 23:53, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Categorization
I raised the issue of categorization with regards to the Weapons category that I created as a subcategory of both technology and items here. Is there something I'm missing? BrokenSphere (Talk) 05:37, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the explanation. I can see your point - however I still think that putting an article in both parent and child categories is not using the category system as it is intended to function and at the heart of it, is inefficient.  The point of subcategories is to focus subjects within one or multiple categories while still keeping them within the larger parent categories - one need only move up the category tree to see that nothing is lost by subcategorization.  This negates the need to put an article into multiple categories and people can always click on subcategories within the parents to see what is in there.  The 3 examples would still be within the items and technology categories, just not visible immediately because they would be in the weapons subcategory.  However if those are the house rules on this wiki, then that's what I'll work with, unless of course, there's a general consensus to change this.   BrokenSphere  (Talk) 17:31, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Roy Mustang

 * Uh, just to point out that edit you reverted from what I saw looked like it was fixing a grammar problem, because what it looks like now is bad and confusing grammar, which I usually tend to fix when I detect it. -Adv193 05:15, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, was that you? Either way, the word I'm using there is "wont" and not "won't". I don't do it sadistically, but I prefer to use words that both fit context well and help readers expand their vocabulary. CorbeauKarasu 05:35, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, was that you? Either way, the word I'm using there is "wont" and not "won't". I don't do it sadistically, but I prefer to use words that both fit context well and help readers expand their vocabulary. CorbeauKarasu 05:35, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * I am referring to the whole phrase "is wont to" and I am finding that "is" and "to" are the parts that in the grammar that reads funny and knocks the sentance out of whack. That part is what needs to be dealt with. -Adv193 05:52, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's how the word is used, though. It's the most common phrase in which to use the word "wont". eg. "I am wont to dally", "she is wont to be tardy". CorbeauKarasu 06:05, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * For future reference: Wont - one's customary behaviour - Constance, as was her wont, had paid her little attention.

--From Oxford online English dictionary. Fullmetal Fan 06:29, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalizing user
As if it weren't obvious beforehand, this wani-wani idiot has now taken the liberty of spamming my profile page multiple times (he's doing it at the moment I type this), when I told him to stop continually reverting yours and my edits of his lackluster edits.

If that weren't proof enough, I think he should be banned by now.

http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wani-wan123 Tommy-Vercetti 20:07, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever you did, it didn't work. He's still at it. I would just delete his account. I've seen you do that before. Tommy-Vercetti 20:28, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Not to defend the blocked user's actions, but I noticed that there was a lack of prior communication with him in an attempt to point out what was problematic about his edits or explain how he could contribute more productively. Then the first message he gets is an inflammatory one. At the same time, he didn't communicate with anyone either to discuss conflicts except for making vandalous edits at the end. Moving forward though, to prevent or minimize this sort of thing from coming up, I think that it would be good to explain standards and house rules, as well as point out guidelines. I notice that there is no automatic message sent out when someone, registered user or IP makes their first edit, maybe it could be enabled so that the relevant help sections can be pointed out and editors welcomed. BrokenSphere  (Talk) 22:23, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * You make that sound like I directly insulted him, with just a "F U MAN" While it's true that I am far more quickto dig into someone, you should take into account his previous behavior.
 * Both CK and myself had numerously reverted edits he continually insisted on making, even with CK plain as day telling him why he was undoing it and to stop making those edits. Check it yourself, but yet he still persisted. Then, after me telling him to cut it out, what does he resort to? Vandalizing. CK gave him a chance, "If you come back..." blahblah, and even after THAT, he vandalized two more pages. I think you're giving the guy a little too much credit to think that he was an innocent victim of misunderstanding. Tommy-Vercetti 22:30, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Both CK and myself had numerously reverted edits he continually insisted on making, even with CK plain as day telling him why he was undoing it and to stop making those edits. Check it yourself, but yet he still persisted. Then, after me telling him to cut it out, what does he resort to? Vandalizing. CK gave him a chance, "If you come back..." blahblah, and even after THAT, he vandalized two more pages. I think you're giving the guy a little too much credit to think that he was an innocent victim of misunderstanding. Tommy-Vercetti 22:30, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm just going by the edit history of Wani-wan's talk page. If there was prior communication I wasn't aware of it. Yes, you guys were making it clear in the edit histories that the edits weren't productive, but no one sent a talk page message. My point is that the initial communication was delayed and when it did come, I don't know about you, but when the first message I ever get on a wiki is someone calling me an idiot and threatening to ban me, then sure, I might fly off the handle and try to retaliate. By the time the final warning came in this was trying to put out a forest fire with a squirt gun. BrokenSphere  (Talk) 22:45, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, you're making the assumption that I use "you'll get banned because I don't like you" which isn't the case. I told him he was going to get banned if his current behavior kept up. If he didn't do that behavior in the first place, I wouldn't have said it. Tommy-Vercetti 22:57, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, you're making the assumption that I use "you'll get banned because I don't like you" which isn't the case. I told him he was going to get banned if his current behavior kept up. If he didn't do that behavior in the first place, I wouldn't have said it. Tommy-Vercetti 22:57, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright, this is a distinction. But when the second sentence is "We've had some idiots before, but you exceed all of them," this is hardly conducive to promoting rationale action on the part of the recipient, especially when nothing was said before. So of course the situation escalated from there. BrokenSphere  (Talk) 23:08, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, we tried disussing it with him when we reverted his edits, and again, he didn't listen. And I know he read them and again scoffed them off. Even after a week, same crap. Never learned at all. Sorry, but I call it as I see it. Tommy-Vercetti 23:14, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, we tried disussing it with him when we reverted his edits, and again, he didn't listen. And I know he read them and again scoffed them off. Even after a week, same crap. Never learned at all. Sorry, but I call it as I see it. Tommy-Vercetti 23:14, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * If edit summaries count as discussing (isn't that what talk pages are for?), then yes, this did happen. BrokenSphere  (Talk) 23:17, July 19, 2011 (UTC)`
 * Doesn't mean it's solely limited only to talk pages. I've gotten plenty of information just from the others leaving edit summaries. And, like I said, he made it very clear that he saw those and again paid them no mind. Tommy-Vercetti 23:20, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Doesn't mean it's solely limited only to talk pages. I've gotten plenty of information just from the others leaving edit summaries. And, like I said, he made it very clear that he saw those and again paid them no mind. Tommy-Vercetti 23:20, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK. Obviously what's done is done and nobody, myself included, wants to see this user continue the same pattern of unproductive edits if he returns under the same user name or comes up with a way to bypass the block. However, as I said in my first post, let's use this as an example of what we can do moving forward to minimize or prevent these types of incidents. Explaining why changes are done in edit summaries helps, but if this isn't enough or isn't being noticed, then why not also send a follow up message as well. The little window in the lower left will pop up and then it will take someone to their talk page. And to take a page from the Simplified Ruleset, in particular #2 (Be civil), as well as #4 (When in doubt, take it to the talk page) and #7-10 (assume good faith, don't revert good faith edits, no personal attacks, and be graceful). As you said in regards to something else, "it's not difficult." BrokenSphere  (Talk) 01:32, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Broken's right. I feel that this could perhaps have all been avoided with a bit more communication on my part. I have a habit of being passive when it comes to human relationships on this site and evidence suggests I should try to curtail that. I did mention in the edit history what was wrong, but it was quite likely that Wani never saw my message. His actions toward the end cannot be condoned, but it may have helped for me to leave messages on his talk page or if the use of insults while dealing with him could have been avoided. "Assuming good faith and being graceful" is something I aspire to on this site, but we could probably all do a bit better on that front. CorbeauKarasu 01:44, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * There is a bot that will autowelcome any editor like I mentioned, but it's not activated here. The function is pretty common on other wikis and the message goes out as soon as any new user hits publish.  However I believe this is an admin function that needs to be enabled.  It usually will say:


 * ==Welcome==
 * Hi, welcome to x Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the x page.


 * Please leave a message on my (Admin X's) talk page if I can help with anything! -- Admin X


 * BrokenSphere (Talk) 01:50, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

New categories
Let's keep the discussion on my talk page. If you feel this is a wider community issue, we can open it up for discussion. Thanks. BrokenSphere (Talk) 19:25, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

About American airdates
Before I go through all the episodes, there has to be a reason why you listed them all as Sunday to begin with.

Is it just my TV schedule or something? But FMA's first showing is around 11:30 or so Saturday, not Sunday. It's true that the reruns can make it into Sunday, but it actually premieres on Saturday as far as I'm convened. Really, the same as everything else they show on Saturday?

What's it for you? Were those dates official on AS.com or something? Just seems strange. Might as well ask before I do anymore of them.Tommy-Vercetti 13:36, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Because the airing time is so close to midnight, the premier date will differ from region to region in America. Because of that, i decided to go with the official release time from Adult Swim - 12:30. So it's officially Sunday. The same goes for the American manga releases. Some stores will accidentally release them before the official date, making it confusing to list, so I've decided to go with official release dates. CorbeauKarasu 14:03, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

IP ban
http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.11.18.61

This user has continually kept on making additions to both the Sloth and Gluttony pages after myself and Fullmetal Fan have constantly reverted them, stating our reasons as to why it's not a worthy addition. I even left a message on his talk page clearly stating why and to cease it, but no, he even posted in Gluttony "I'll keep reverting it too" so, he obviously got the message but doesn't learn. I think should he continue, his IP should be banned since he has no username. If you think locking the pages to registered users only might help, try that, but I really don't think this unruly user will go away that quick. Take a look into it. Tommy-Vercetti 20:54, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

A question
Man, I take a day off and the spammers come full force. Judging from the history on the Mustang page, he must have uploaded several addition pictures of Larry Flynt, correct?

Well, that got me curious about two things:

1. If those were deleted so quickly, why is the entire "candidates for deletion" page completely stale and idle? That should also be routinely checked and processed, I believe.

2. If you deleted all his others... why not the last one? Now we have Larry Flynt in the gallery for no reason... that's rather strange...

Okay, nevermind about 2. I just checked again and it's gone. Don't know when that happened, but whatever. It was quite the delay, but I'm still curious about #1. Tommy-Vercetti 20:12, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I added the candidates for deletion tag to the pictures yesterday, I must have missed that one because it didn't have the tag today when I checked, but was deleted not long after a added the tag to it earlier. That's my guess as to why it stayed up.  I also agree we need to look at the Candidates for Deletion page more often, it has a lot on it that we should review and take down if necessary. Fullmetal Fan 21:39, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ban again
I don't even remember who this idiot is, http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/User:KoolCartoons but apparently he's another little retard who's pissed off that his MARVELOUS edits were reverted. He just popped up and without posted this little gem completely on his own volition.

http://fma.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Tommy-Vercetti&oldid=30042#Muhahahahahahah.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21

I think it's time for a ban.

Edit: Okay, I guess someone else already took care of it.

Tommy-Vercetti 17:11, August 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * That was me, of course :P --kiadony --talk to me-- 17:13, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me that. Lhammadeh 17:26, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Lhammadeh 12:25 PM Sunday, August 21st, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving the talk page
Hey... I know this is none of my business, but your talk page is so long now... Do you think of archiving (parts of) it any time soon? --kiadony --talk to me-- 17:33, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

A final decision on the "last words"
Okay, I've recently seen someone add Cornello's last words, despite my own memories of you clearly saying "We want to get rid of them".

Which is it? Give me a positive yes or no, and if it's a no, I can go remove just about every single one in a few hours. But, I'm still unsure if it's a no-go yet or not. Let me know so I can get to removing them then. Tommy-Vercetti 22:08, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

I, particulary, think "last words" are some pretty useless information and it makes the wikia looks amateur-ish, like some series with no info or that noone knows anything about, but want to give the impression they are "filling people in". If you want to read people's last words, then, well, read the manga! We have enourmous articles with pretty detailed information about most things in FMA and, still, there's a LOT more that can be put in and that would be interesting and revelant: things that would take a long time for someone to 'figure out' and even things that aren't in the manga itself. Those are the most important, IMO, for any wikia and not just FMA's. We shouldn't "stuff" articles up with things anyone can look up if they have a little initiative. It's bad for the visual of the site and it's bad for the objectiveness the articles should have. Turdaewen 03:06, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

All right. All Last Words will be taken off character pages and moved to the Quotes page. Maybe with a Last Words tag, but maybe not...CorbeauKarasu 00:14, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

How about quotes? A few character pages (Izumi for example) have them, and there may be a similar argument for removing them. It's probably unnecessary to have them since we have the Quotes page. Fullmetal Fan 04:49, November 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * I personally think we could go without any quotes at all, but many people were in favour of keeping them (the quotes page, anyway). If we are to improve the quotes page, I say we add tags (I brought this up on the article's talkpage a while ago) to quotes that need them, i. e. quotes that don't sound well out of context and suchlike. --kiadony --talk to me-- 17:35, November 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, but trying to move the Last Words to the Quotes page has led me to believe that keeping the page up to snuff might involve not including quotes that would require a tag to make sense. If a quote isn't humorous or poetic or poignant, it probably should go on the page and if it's the kind of quote that does not make sense except in response to another person's quote, then it should be put down as part of a dialog quote. I don't usually like footnotes, but perhaps we could use them to identify a quote's location, but that might not be necessary either. CorbeauKarasu 18:13, November 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've always thought the quotes page was entirely worthless. It adds no relevant information because the lines are picked by its editors, so I honestly see no point whatsoever. AND to top off, we include lines from both the dub and original versions with no indications of such. This is especially a problem due to the dub taking numerous liberties with character personalities, so essentially we're also posting out of character lines solely because whoever was editing it liked it. It's just so tacky, and such a novice addition to this wikipedia, I can't believe it was kept at all.Tommy-Vercetti 18:58, November 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Like I said, we've already had a discussion here, and I think I've made all my points pretty clear, so I won't repeat myself, but as to the problem of dub quotes and random irrelevant quotes added by random people, we could make a Quote Policy for that. --kiadony --talk to me-- 11:11, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Pages for volumes
Since we have them now, should we have them linked them from here, or should we make a simpler list? --kiadony --talk to me-- 17:42, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

No, the plan as I imagined it was to return the list to its simpler form once the Volume pages went into effect. I feel kind of bad since the person who revamped the page put a lot of work into it and even included the ISBN codes, but I feel like that information is superfluous and the page is rather unnecessarily cluttered. I suppose it's time to clean it up again. Perhaps a simple list for the Volumes can be included on the List of Chapters page or perhaps it can go somewhere else if it's even necessary at all. CorbeauKarasu 18:05, November 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * What do you think of using a standard table for it? Like this (well, sort of, it should be prettified or course). No images (use them for the individual volume pages) or ISBN codes. --kiadony --talk to me-- 11:52, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

That's nice, but it's essentially what we have now, really. Honestly, I was thinking just a simplified list kind of what we have now for characters or episodes. It's not pretty or anything, but it's straightforward. A main section for regular chapters, a secondary section for special bonus chapters and maybe a list of Volumes, though I wonder how necessary the latter would be. A list of volumes could work on the page, I suppose, or perhaps it could be shoehorned into the Manga's page or just have a page to itself. Though, since the volumes themselves aren't named, it would just serve as a place for people to be able to shuffle between non-sequential volume pages with ease. I don't think it's necessary to have release date information as part of the list because that'll be on the Volume pages. Do you think it would be a waste of space to have a List of Chapters page and a separate List of Volumes page? CorbeauKarasu 17:10, November 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't say it would be a "waste", but I don't really see why we should make several lists if they can be nicely put together in one. Like this then (with links and full names, of course):

Volume One

 * Chapter 1: ...
 * Chapter 2: ...
 * Chapter 3: ...
 * Chapter 4: ...

Volume Two
And so on...

Though strictly speaking the table I made isn't the same as what we have now, since the latter uses some weird template, and mine is just a standard table. I'm actually fine with it either way, as long as it isn't overloaded, especially with colours that don't fit in our overall theme.

Also, do you think we should make a category for the volumes or just add the manga category to them? I find it neater when categories have sub-categories (like it is now with Chapters being a sub-category of Manga, which I think is better than having all chapters in the manga category; though I think I'll work on categories some more later anyway), so I'd personally categorize them as "Manga volumes" and then add "Manga" category to "Manga volumes". --kiadony --talk to me-- 17:28, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

I see what you're aiming for, but what I'd like is for the Bonus Chapters to have their own separate section on the List of Chapters page and, since they're spread throughout a number of volumes, I feel that listing them in such a manner would seem to insist upon listing the Bonus Chapters under each Volume heading to which they belong. Or do you think we should just list them like you have up there and place the Bonuses in their own section anyway? That might work as well...As for Volumes, I think they're probably okay with just the Manga category for now. We can always come to a different decision later if it remains an issue. CorbeauKarasu 21:43, November 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think listing bonus chapters separately would be a problem. The volume pages and pages of the bonus chapters themselves will have the information about which volume each bonus chapter is from. Like this:

Volume One

 * Chapter 1: ...
 * Chapter 2: ...
 * Chapter 3: ...
 * Chapter 4: ...

Volume Two
...

Bonus Chapters


Also, the reason I want to have something more elaborate than a simple list is that a list with sections or a table is more eye-catching, making it easier to navigate/read (but of course, the current volumes and chapters list is way too eye-catching). Our list of characters is nicely divided into sections, even the list of anime episodes isn't entirely solid. By the way, what do you think of this page? Do you think it should be turned into a list as well, since it's basically the same case? --kiadony --talk to me-- 11:24, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Images
they aren't fanart, they are official images. Do you want the original images?



Yeah, let this guy keep doing his thing. He's finding some really great images.Tommy-Vercetti 18:07, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Remove again
Just when I thought wikia couldn't get any worse, they go on and add a highly distracting, unremovable "calendar".

Can we just get rid of it? We all opted to remove their idiotic twitter thing, let's remove these too, if possible. How does everyone else feel?Tommy-Vercetti 21:18, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

...Anything? It's really distracting and pointless.Tommy-Vercetti 14:55, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

About the format of the articles
CorbeauKarasu, I'm not here to cause a stir on edits, but I never agreed with the format. Was this universally agreed upon with the other editors on this wikia? If it is, I'm willing to create a petition to change it. Don't you think there should be a section called "Character & Personality", followed by sub-sections that go into detail about the character? Wouldn't that be far more organized? Look over at this page Setsuna F. Seiei, isn't it better defined that way? Taikage - Admin 06:16, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Episode Templates
I decided to go forward with these first since the links between the episodes are terrible right now for a number of reasons. a. the Category only jumbles up the episodes from both series. b. The read more sections on wikia for the episodes of both series is a joke since they almost always point to the 2003 anime episodes and not enough to the 2009 anime episodes. I'll at least cover the main episodes and if you want you can help improve the template, but I am only intending to deal with this problem. -Adv193 19:38, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

The See Also section is largely to include links to episodes based on the same manga content, but your template seems rather useful as well. CorbeauKarasu 19:44, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Just got done with the first series. Will work on setting up the second series template next. I don't think the manga need immediate attention right now. -Adv193 19:58, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

I think the new template you're adding is great. It was such a pain to either have to painstakingly click through each page or to type in the one you want.

And, on another note, thanks to whoever removed that awful wikia calendar too.Tommy-Vercetti 21:13, January 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you and just to state it I finished the second series already and I agree what happened before between the episodes was tricky. Going to be a while before if I decide to do the same for the manga, though I'll likely name the template "FMA Manga". -Adv193 21:28, January 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Great work Adv, keep it up ^_^ Unfortunately I still can't manage to return to active editing, so I can't be of much help right now, but if something happens, feel free to leave me a message. --kiadony --talk to me-- 11:56, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Stupid category
http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Males

I just found this, and I know you didn't agree to it. I recall someone trying to do a "female" one awhile back and you stated clearly that gender categories were entirely pointless. Well, I agree too, but apparently someone took the liberty of adding in this, and I thought I'd bring it to your (or anyone else's) attention. Tommy-Vercetti 23:59, January 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've removed the "Males" category from all the pages, so that should be the end of it. I've checked the list of categories and it's not there, so I think it's gone for good. Fullmetal Fan 02:28, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Image moving
Well, most other wikia's does that as well and i also believe it makes it easier to edit the pages. --Gojita 09:49, February 4, 2012 (UTC)Gojita

Hey, mind if I ask you a question?
No doubt, that it's been you at the head of this site that it turned out so good. Most articles are written very well (and the substandard ones are getting better with time). Either way, the vocabulary is good, writing is good, information is good, all that, and it's probably the only good anime wikia I can even think of off the top of my mind. Anyway, you obviously know about how to make these online encyclopedias professional looking, so here's my question:

What do you think about a website that continually alternates between British and English spellings? Even on the same page. To me, it looks extremely tacky and like it was written by 100+ people with no attempt whatsoever to tie in everyone's thoughts into a coherant piece. You know english, and so do I, I'm a writer, and I'm trying to imagine if in during anything I write, I alternate between something like "neighborhood" and "neighbourhood". It's incredibly amateurish in every sense to me.

The reason I'm asking this is because I've recently grown tired of the one other wikipedia I edited on the side, because, for nearly a full year I did what I could to try and improve the quality, and one of those entailed trying to make the site consitent by removing the British spellings. When they literally have a page called "Body armor", and corresponding links use "armour", it should go with what the page is actually called. That wasn't a problem until now, when suddenly they began to have a problem with it. It's not like they even said "We use British english", nope, that would have actually made sense, instead the admins were "I don't mind either spelling, but we need a fair amount of both."

...How does that even work? It's pretty sad considering their biggest goal is to "Make the site the best of its kind on the net". Like that? What do you think? I personally think they should set a standard, but to do "a fair amount of both" solely not to offend anyone or something is just... the mark of incompetance regarding how to maintain and create a somewhat professional kind of online encyclopedia.

They might as well just write alLLL thE ArITlcSE frOM now ON LIke tHIees; couldn't look any worse. What do you think? I just wanted to run this by someone else.Tommy-Vercetti 16:33, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

They actually banned me for doing it, if you can believe that. The admins. I would be fine if they said "Only British english", but no, everytime I try and change "armour" to "armor" or something along those lines, they revert it and give me a warning; then, eventually I got banned for it. I don't care, obviously, that site is an absolute joke, but still, pretty lousy upkeep there. Tommy-Vercetti 15:59, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

A small question
Why don´t you guys creat a chat? i think it makes the wiki much better, the interaction between the users makes it a better place, and it´s easier to discuss topics related to the wiki in a chat, have a nice day and thank you for your attencion! Ncf 01:06, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Why waste time chatting? This isn't a forum; and everything that needs to be discussed is accomplished in this very same way, the talk pages.Tommy-Vercetti 14:35, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Helping
Hello CorbeauKarasu, My name is Salubri i'm a Bureaucrat and Admin over at the Bleach [|Bleach Wiki]. I used to come on the site way back when. Anyhow I just wanted to ask is there any work on the site that needs to be done in the area of organization. Ive always been a fan of FullMetal Alchemist and now especially Brotherhood. After some thought I figured I would help the site upgrade. The layout on the character articles. The coding for the main page, the refinement of the Character templates, fight articles, greater references, and the separation and development of individual pages for the 2003 series and 2009 series. Just some general thoughts let me know what you think. I recently informed Kiadony about this and she referred me to you. I also had spoken previously about this to KingLinkTiger. As when I attempted to try and help before you previously undid the edits with no explanation. So im assuming that you wouldnt be for any updated changes to the site.-- 15:01, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hi Corbeau,

My name is Tara and I am with FUNimation Entertainment. We license and distribute FMA, and we are interested in working with you and the wikia community in order to provide you with exclusive content, support, and anything else that we might could do in order to help enchance your community. (things like logos, screenshots, copy, dates of release, and other things that you might think of that could be relevant!)

If you are interested in working with us, send me an email at feedback [@] funimation.com and we can discuss it further!

Thanks! Have a great day!

FUNimation 14:55, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

What exactly can you help with that we can't already do ourselves? The best way you can help, if you're even legit that is, stop removing all the openings off Youtube that we try and link to. I think a new still gets taken off within a day or two each time. Tommy-Vercetti 15:17, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Anything that we could provide to you (or is on our official FUNimation YouTube channel) would not be taken down. We could provide you with clean, HQ logos / key art, summaries, descriptions, upcoming release dates, and other things that could help expand your community (especially items in regard to the movie, Sacred Star of Milos movie that is coming out soon) We could also arange to provide promotion items to your community in order to have some sort of contest for your users! Let us know if you are interested (and you could also email us directly at feedback[@]funimation.com FUNimation 16:57, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, that's nice to know it wasn't just some user trying to play a prank by pretending to be FUNimation. If you could provide links to any openings and ending themes you guys have already uploaded (if you've already uploaded such things) to wherever they won't get taken down, that'll help quite a bit of our pages, since we can't ever seem to link to any full openings to go along with the lyrics and information pages. Pass those on.

So, I'm interested in fixing those. Don't know about everyone else here though, but I'm sure they'll take up your other efforts.

Though, just so you know, the english dub will never take precedence here, if that's what you're after. It's up to CK though, so I'll leave the rest of the contact to him. Tommy-Vercetti 18:39, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Tara! It's very nice to hear FUNimation is interested in colaborating with our community! My main concerns are two: first, that most contents within the FUNimation site are closed to countries aside the US and, for example, I'm one of the biggest contributors here and I live in Brazil. This site is not merely a reference to US viewers of FMA, but a global reference site. I personally would be very upset to have it narrowed down its contents only for US' IPs. As an open source site and in such language as English (that has been established as an almost universal language) it would be a shame that people outside US could no longer view the openings of the show, for example. And I know that that is a complicated matter legally-wise, but I also think it's a vital point to an 'open source' site such as our own, not in terms of contents of the series itself, but for the sake of universalization of information. The second point, which is actually related to the first, is the independence of contents within this wikia. In many ways, the FMA wikia comprehends a lot more than just the FMA's animated series and it enters in the field of fandom established theories, the author of FMA herself and also the manga and it's paramount that we conserve that independency. We do hold as the most important aspect of the community the accuracy to the original contents of FMA and, even because of that, some discrepancies might appear in relation to the version of FUNimation, for example, since our fidelity is to the original contents, and not FUNimation' adaptation. And I don't mean it as a depreciation of FUNimation's adaptations of FMA, as I do understand them to be important to the process of translation, publicity and etcetera, but it's just not the parameters we uphold: it was a choice to be closer to the Japanese originals in our contents, even because of the global aspect of this wikia. Aside from that, I, personally, think it would be quite interesting to work with you here, altought the final decision would be entirely up to CK. Turdaewen 18:52, March 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree personally as someone who used the official legal streams on Hulu to help make the summaries of FMA superb with both episodes and character profiles. Also as a member of the Funimation community if things work out I'll gladly support it. -Adv193 04:26, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Writing Standards?
I was wondering if the FMA Wikia has a defined set of writing standards and where I might find it if it does. I'm interested specifically in verb tenses (past vs present). I'm asking because someone went through the 2003 section on the homunculus page and allegedly changed all the past tense verbs to the present. He actually did a hack-job; both past and present tense are present throughout the section, sometimes in the same sentence. I wrote about 98% of that section (I'm quite proud of it actually), and it irks me the way he butchered it and thought it was an improvement.

I just want to be sure about verb tense before I go through it myself and fix the errors.

Thanks, Damaijin 05:10, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

That was me, and I think I fixed the instances of past-tense I missed before. By the way, present-tense is correct. For the most part, articles are written in the present-tense, and that's the grammatically correct way. The reason for this is because each time someone watches a movie, reads a book, whatever, it's happening in the present-tense for them. There are a couple exceptions; first, if you're quoting a line, it stays in whatever tense the line is in, and second, if the thing happened in the past in the story (Father creating the homunculi for example). Fullmetal Fan 05:42, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, although I honestly don't recall ever being told that I should write in the present tense. But now that I know, I'll be sure to use it. As for the bloated writing, yes, I'm aware that I can get long-winded, and I apologize. But I wasn't actually talking about the cutting of various sections as the butchering. I was talking about the verb-conversion job. When verbs aren't all the same tense, it just looks bad...

Also, I was wondering what you meant by the 2003 story sections. Are these the ones on character pages you're asking me to look at? Did you have any specific ones in mind?

Thanks, Damaijin 20:41, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Another newbie in need of blocking
Both Turdawen and I have warned this guy to quit reverting our edits to the Mustang and Alphonse pages regarding their status of both "deuteragonist" and "tritagonist", respectively.

He's even admitted than there's no difference between "deuteragonist" and "secondary protagonist" but remains highly adamant that it shouldn't be changed. With all the words I've seen you use, with far more basic words up for grab, it was probably even you who decided to use those words to begin with. We try and use a somewhat advanced, professional writing style here.

I've explained that to him and he just doesn't get it and won't accept it. Turdawen reverted them first and I'm agreeing with the rest of our veterans' majority as well.

Look into it, but he's stated "I'M nOT GONNA StoP", so I think a suspension is in order, and if he comes back doing the same, I recommend a permanent banning.

http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/McCrillisNsiah2

Tommy-Vercetti 19:56, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

I did not attack the other editors, I've explained about my edits. I only turn against Tommy after he called me an idiot. I reverted the Mustang page only once but reverted the Al page numerously. Also if you checked my contributions, you see that clearly. Once I'd said to Fullmetal Fan I'll just leave it alone, I was over with it until Tommy had to bring the agrument back up again. McCrillisNsiah2 21:31, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

And I only called you an idiot because you had to keep reverting and doing the same exact thing you did with me to Turdawen too.

I personally couldn't care less what terms are used, but when I saw so many other editors agreeing with the use of the new terms, I figured they must have a good reason. And you shouldn't go berserk and endlessly and do this like CK said. If you just wrote about it on the talk page "Hey, I don't think this term fits", hardly anything would have happened. Do that next time; which is what I told you to do regarding images too the first time we spoke. Tommy-Vercetti 21:50, April 15, 2012 (UTC)