Talk:Father

Hi, I decided to make a change here when I noticed something that didn't make sense.

Father's True Form, it had "This is the only form that takes damage"

I didn't get it because the whole explanation was about how it didn't take any damage and is invulnerable to anything. And when you take into consideration that his Hohenheim form was impaled numerous times before he was expelled; that's damage, and his God form was beaten to an everlasting pulp, they take damage. So I decided to change "This is the only form that does "not" take damage"

I hope that's a better change. 97.123.89.238 19:03, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Father just a title?
As I understood it from the manga "Father´s" true name is actually Homonculus, and Father is merely what his children (understandably) call him. This rubs off on Edward and others when they hear the Homonculi talk about him, but I don't think he ever states he has renamed himself Father, nor does Hohenheim, the only person who really knows him, refer to him as such. 81.236.21.141 19:03, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Hohenheim is really the only person who calls him "Homunculus" (Hohenheim's master called him 'the homunculus') so the name Homunculus is really just a title. Since the majority name for him is Father, that is what we should call him.--Full Metal Fan 04:57, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

He himself says that he wish to be called Homonculus, I believe, and he never tells others to call him Father. But maybe it's better we go with what most readers/characters (whichever you meant) call him rather than what's only technically true. Perhaps it deserves a trivia mention? 81.236.21.141 20:12, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Good Gentlemen?
I just noticed that another name has been added to Father's name box now.

"The Good Gentlemen"?

Huh? I've never heard anyone call him that before, where did it come from? I'm up for removing it unless someone can fill me in. Tommy-Vercetti 14:08, June 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * The Generals of Central Command don't call him Father. Brigadier General Edison refers to him as "The Good Gentleman" a number of times. CorbeauKarasu 15:01, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Deceased
Father is in the deceased category... is that really true? From what I saw, he's technically not "dead", morso banished than anything else. He's gone for good, sure, but technically, he's not dead. Tommy-Vercetti 21:15, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Technically, he's not so much 'dead' as he is re-absorbed. Father was originally a piece of the life and knowledge found in the Gate of Truth - this was taken (by unknown means) and given life with human blood. In a sense, Father was technically reduced to his original form - knowledge inside the Gate of Truth.

Missing out alot of info from the 2009 series
Don't just write "In the manga" or "Manga", write "Manga and 2009 anime series". You guys forget to add the part when the Homunculus Greed was brought to Father's lair, refused to be a good son and help his father, and Father got Greed into his soul temporiary. Another part you guys forgot was that in Episode 28 of the 2009 series, Father made Van Hohenheim's sons Edward and Alphonse Elric and the Elrics' friend Ling Yao, later trying to battle him, and put Greed's Philosopher's Stone into Ling's body.

Softest form of carbon
The softest form of carbon is NOT charcoal! Charcoal is fossilized remains, the softest form of carbon is graphite, the stuff you find in pencils.NightTrain 00:50, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

"It is possible"
That is a joke to literally be including 'real life' homunculi, and this trivia literally makes no sense. It would be on par with something along the lines of "You could literally make a machine to go to Pokeman land and make them real"

It's fantasy and was hardly very interesting or relevant trivia in the first place.Tommy-Vercetti 20:25, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think you misunderstood what I meant, or I'm misunderstanding what you mean. I didn't mean it was actually possible for a homunculus to be created, I meant it could theoretically happen again in the FMA universe. It happened once, so why couldn't it happen again? Fullmetal Fan 21:12, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * But why does that even need to be mentioned? Obviously it's possible, that's why it happened there. I literally do not see any point to that trivia whatsoever.Tommy-Vercetti 21:26, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, finally I see what it was trying to say. It was not well-written. If you want to rewrite it and add it back, I guess I can see it. I would write something along the lines of "It is possible that yet another Homunculus could be created in the same manner as Father, but highly unlikely"


 * It was way too convoluted earlier, which is why I misconstrued it so badly to begin with. You really have to focus on it to get the original point.Tommy-Vercetti 21:41, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * We may as well just leave it out then, because it seems to me that it will either be convoluted or not have the facts to back it up. I suppose I could try to tweak it a bit to make it sound better, too. Fullmetal Fan 06:46, September 24, 2011 (UTC)