Talk:Riza Hawkeye

I am trying to write more on riza hawkeye's information.i edit the VA info,and i need some help(unless i finish on time) on the article here plot synoposis manga(my addition) While-role.....extend.....anime...manga...(same line) Riza goes along with Mustang to Resembool to find a talented alchemist named Edward Elric,approximately 4 years ago before the beginning of the manga.She corrected Mustang for mistakenly identify Edward Elric as 31 years old.She later have a conversation with Winry while Mustang talks to the Elric brothers and Pinako .Winry asks her what's her reason for joining the military,and she replies that there's someone she wants to protect.She helds the rank of Second Lieutenant at that particular time.

She later transfer to Central,with Havoc,Falman,Fuery,Breman,under Mustang orders.While having a break after her transfer in Central,she met Barry the Chopper. -- Thunderbreak 04:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)thunderbreakThunderbreak 04:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC) D: I think she dies in volume 100

Inconclusive and unlikely. The neck wound looked too low and to be fatal, at least not instantly. In any case, we won't know for sure until next month. CorbeauKarasu 22:36, October 15, 2009 (UTC) OH!(what a relief that she is possibly not dead)

Age?
Another thing I've noticed: I don't believe Riza should be so young as 25 or even 26. For two reasons: first, she said to Roy at her father's funeral that her father made her attend school, which means she was probably at least 17 back then (1905). And another is that she said she was at her last year of military academy by the time she was sent to Ishval, so she was definitely not 18, but at least 19~20 at that time. Both those things combined (along with the fact that she's a 1st lieutenant) lead me to believe she's definitely not more than 3 years younger to Roy, making her about 27 to 28 years old.--Turdaewen 01:37, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Technically, we shouldn't even list her age because there's no support for it. I do recall coming across information from the first anime that listed her birthdate as 1889 (though I can't find the source now), which would make her 25 at the start of the series. I also disagree that she couldn't be that young. She didn't say how she was educated, and considering the time period, it wouldn't be a stretch to assume she didn't attend school (if she even did attend school) to the age we consider normal now. She was also clearly much shorter than Roy at the time of the flashbacks than she is at her current height. Remember, women tend to stop growing at 17/18, so it's unlikely that she grew several more inches if she was already at that age. Finally, the new anime clearly has some timeline issues by marking Master Hawkeye's death as 1905. Unless Riza attended the academy for about two or three years (and she might not have needed to be of age to attend considering the military's seeming lack of age restrictions, at least when it comes to talented people), there's no way she could have been in her final year at the academy in 1907/1908, which was the time of the Ishbal Massacre. If she was born in 1889, she would be four years younger than Roy and would have been about 19 during Ishbal, which I frankly think works just fine. Anyway, I went ahead and removed her age. We don't list the ages of other characters unless we have proof. -- Kokoro

Can we really imply that?
At the Character Outline, it's stated: "Throughout the manga, it is heavily implied that the two have feelings for each other but cannot express them as a result of the turmoil that the country was in." But there's not way to know that's why "they don't express" it might have a million different reasons why they might not do it and there's nothing in Arakawa's writing the actually leads us to think they even KNOW they like each other. So, I don't think that implications like this (which a clearely created by the Royai fans and not by the original work itself) should be placed in this article. I don't question that there is an relationship implied in the manga, as it clearly is, but merely that we can actually pinpoint a reason for not being "expressed".--Turdaewen 13:14, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

I agree. And I also don't think we can really suggest what kind of "implied" relationship they have. Saying that they "have feelings for each other" implies a romantic relationship, but there isn't actually any support for a relationship beyond a close friendship or even a familiar like bond, despite what shippers would like to see. Should we remove it from this page and the Roy page? -- Kokoro

I already removed the part where they stated that. I think we can say that their relationship is implied, though not affirm it an actual relationship at any level, since there's no real declaration in the manga or even by Arakawa. I think we can say they do have something more than just a family/friend bond, especially regarding recent events, but it doesn't mean we can imply that they actually own to it. At the light of late events, I think we can leave that, but my problem was more regarding "but cannot express them as a result of the turmoil that the country was in." as is has nothing to back it up whatsoever. --Turdaewen 11:10, December 1, 2009 (UTC)