Talk:Roy Mustang

Character Info
If I'm not mistaken, there's no official record as to the date of Roy's birth date, except from the year stated in Perfect Guidebook 2, which is also wrong: it's 1885 instead of 1886. So there's no way of telling his birthday is on Sept. 25th. --Turdaewen 20:50, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Since when did Roy kill Winry's parents? I thought it was Scar killing her parents? Waterdrop95 01:19, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

He killed her parents in the first anime. --Turdaewen 01:29, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Oh.Waterdrop95 01:35, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I question the trivia about implications, much less heavy ones, of a romantic relationship with Hawkeye. They're frequently seen together, yes, but she works under him specifically until she is transferred to the Fuhrer. In fact, while both are seen a few times in their private life, they are NEVER seen together outside of performing a professional task or a task directly related to the grand plan. The closest they've come to ever being seen together on a remotely non-professional/coup-based occasion has been Roy having lunch with her. This is after using his expressedly adept people skills to asses in the prior chapter that all was not well by her voice. The fact that she starts up a conversation at all tips him off that she's giving a code. On top of that, they are not on a first name basis in their private life. Compare this to the fact that he calls Hughes and Havoc by name both on duty and off. Roy and Riza may have a special connection as detailed by the plot summary, but I think the romantic implication trvia should be removed, all things considered. 24.32.255.130 15:39, January 2, 2010 (UTC)Zel

Zel, looking at other Arakawa works, such as Souten no Komori and Juushin Enbu, and the way she usually portrays cannon parings (being there a actual relationship, or simply a romantic inclination), you get to realize some deep similarities with the relationship between Roy and Riza. Since she's not an author to put her parings blantly in her mangas, it doesn´t mean she does not intend into putting them as cannon. She usually alludes to it through particular lines and situations, not only on FMA but all her works. And all of that makes a sort of consensus, both in and out of Japan of them being a cannon, though not 'evident', couple. So, not having showed them in a context that in other animes are stated as being cannon doesn't make them 'not-cannon', since they fit Arakawa's description of cannon couples. Meaning: there's no need to actually SHOW them kissing or talking to eachother intimatelly to state that. I agree it may come off confusing by only reading (or watching) FMA, but, when you get to know Arakawa's work more closely, it's very clear. My suggestion it to change 'relationship' to 'feelings', since what's not clear through original work is not if they're in love with eachother, but if they do have a real relationship with eachother. --Turdaewen 14:25, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Appearance
Now, isn't his appearance section a bit too... poetic? I mean, hair falling dangerously over his eyes? I think the section should be a bit more neutral - not everyone likes Roy afterall (I myself have nothing against him, but even Ed's description is more neutral). Kiadony 18:18, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

True...perhaps it could use some revision. ^^; The reason I left appearance out in the first place is that all I could really see was that he had black hair and black eyes and, with the picture right there in plain sight, I figured a description was a tad unnecessary. But after Turdaewen pointed out his taste for neutral colors and formal dress, I thought I'd elaborate a little. Seems I went too far XP. CorbeauKarasu 18:37, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it did come out a little too poetic. Awesomely fun to read, though. XD I'll see if I can help take it down a nodge. (but one thing is right: it certainly looks like something Roy himself would say. XD) Turdaewen 20:25, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Roy Mustang's rank in the end
If I'm not mistaken, he's "only" a 3-star general in the end, not 4-star. Doesn't that make him Lieutenant General then, instead of General?

No... Lieutenant General is actually 2 stars General, so Roy is actually General, which is the first rank under Führer. If you still have doubts about it, you can look at this Rank List and also this image from Chapter 83. As you can see, Grumman, who was a Lieutenant General, had only 2 stars in his insignia.Turdaewen 03:19, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Last bit of trivia
The last trivia on the page... I'm kind of iffy about it. "The only character to have his toll returned to him"

Al's toll was his entire body and he got that back too, so technically that's not true, right?

I wish we could rephrase that better. Roy was the only one to have his toll returned without a tremendous sacrifice to get it back, just a little vile of stone. Meanwhile for Al to get his body back, his brother had to sacrifice his ENTIRE GATE.

What do you think? The way it is now, it's just kinda iffy.I don't really know how to change it though. Tommy-Vercetti 19:13, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I guess the best would be to not to mention anything of the sort. We all know he got his sight back and that he sacrificed the Ishvalan stone for it, so I don't think there's need to state such a thing. Turdaewen 12:50, June 21, 2010 (UTC)