User talk:NaokoElric2250

No one's going to ban you for your opinions as long as you don't vandalize official pages with them. keep discussions to blogs and talk pages and it'll be fine. You have every right to your opinions, but, as I disagree with your assertion wholeheartedly, I'll endeavor to dissuade you of them. I've actually had several discussions at length with my peers on the subject of sexism in manga/anime and we've come to the conclusion that of the major contemporary shonen, One Piece and Fullmetal Alchemist are among the most progressive in terms of gender equality while Bleach and especially Naruto are absolutely abysmal. You mentioned before that crying is a sign of weakness and that just isn't the case. Showing emotion is not weakness; having compassion and empathy are not aspects of being weak. "Feminine" traits are not weak traits just because our culture has apparently deemed them so. They, as well as more obvious signs of strength are traits that are shared between and should be encouraged between the genders equally. Your argument seems largely focused on Winry Rockbell and I can see where you'd get that viewpoint - I've heard a handful of people express it - but compared to most leading ladies in manga (and shoujo is actually pretty damn bad at this a lot of the time), Winry shows remarkable strength by both being compassionate and self-sufficient. Her drive to make her own way in the world makes her stronger than a lot of real people and, even while she cries, she takes action for the sake of her ideals. Ibn a medium where a lot of girls her age are depicted - indeed idealized - as ditzy or incompetent, she's a biomechanical genius to the same level that Edward Elric is an alchemical genius. And its the variety of women in the series that makes it great. Just because one ascribes a seemingly positive trait to a group of people, doesn't mean one isn't being biased or prejudiced. Some women and men are weak, some women and men are strong (emotionally, physically and/or intellectually). understanding that these traits are spread out equally across the gender board is the root of gender equality. I like shoujo, but I've seen way too many shoujo series with female protagonists whose very character sets back gender equality about fifty years. if you want to argue that Japan has a lot of gender equality problems, I won't stop you, but FMA's diversity in terms of roles assigned to people of different gender puts it on a pedestal as far as feminism is concerned. I'm glad that Arakawa is a woman - there need to be more prominent female mangaka - but I do find it a bit of a shame that no prominent male mangaka seem to write titles as progressive as FMA these days. CorbeauKarasu 14:12, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Again I am sorry.

Thank you for putting your idea across in a nice manner. When done like this, I can better taken in and process others opinions. When it is riddled with swearwords and insults, I cannot take it seriously and I just think the poster is being a troll.

I will say that I was not the first to see “Fullmetal Alchemist” as sexist. They other rants and comments I put up were before my own. I backed up my claims with evidence.

The reason you feel the way you do is because you have not a good enough verity of people to discuss it with and where someone like me brings their opinion, which is supported by evidence, I am shot down and made to look stupid simply because my view is different. Well, that is how I feel anyway.

The only reason Winry was made an automail mechanic was to serve a male and other people. When she wanted to go to Rush Valley, it was to make better automail for EDWARD. She should have been travelling with the Elrics all the time, seeing what they saw, hear what they heard, fighting what they fought, but no Arakawa just has her remain at home, stereotypical of a woman, and remain in Rush Valley instead of actually being adventurous and exploring and finding things out. She was their childhood friend, yet missed out on m any things they did when she was supposed to be the closest to them.

She is ditzy when it comes to seeing new automail though.

Arakawa had her cry at the most stupid things. She would cry just because Alphonse and Edward would not, which is very sexist, the girl will cry but not the boys. There is a scene where Edward protects confronts a crying, pathetic-looking Winry, but is there ever a scene where Winry protects and confronts a crying, pathetic-looking Edward? No. We have the old-fashioned and disgustingly sexist situation of “Male protects and confronts weak female while she cries”. We need more scenes of “Girl protects and comforts weak male while he cries”.

The same can be said of Roy and Riza and ling and Ran Fan, the male saves and protects the female. I am not mention the “Roy Riza Scar” part as the few scenes where the females rescued the males where tiny in compression the huge scenes where a male protects and comforts a female.

There is never a story where a woman is the centre of attention and a man who is on the sidelines, in her shadow, except from Izumi and Oliver. Even so, they needed help from males to defeat their enemies. The woman are always playing this role and it disgusts me that a woman could be so sexist. Winry is part of the Elric Brothers Riza is a part of Roy’s story, Ran Fan is part of Ling’s, Mei is part of Scar’s, etc.

Feminine traits are bad in today’s society, I feel, as it is stereotypically and old-fashioned. This could be, however, as most of my friends are male. I have very few female friends, and I do believe that may hhave shaped my views, as I tend to get along with boys better.

As for “One Piece” that does contain a lot of sexism. The outfits for a start. Nami’s outfits have become more and more revealing as time has gone on. And her breasts have become bigger and bigger.

However, I will not complain about that, as it is expect of a male author from what I have seen of the many stories and book I have. The same goes for “Naruto” but that is because someone else has taken care of that already.

If FMA was written by a man, then I would not be complaint. Eve better, if Edward, Alphonse, Winry, Roy, Riza, Ling, Ran Fan, Mei and maybe Pride had been the opposite gender, then frankly, “Fullmetal Alchemist” could have been one of my most favourite mangas to date.

I would have enjoyed the clichés it broke and the fact that the males were the ones supporting the females, and the fact that the story would have a rare story where it is about two sisters on a journey while their male find waited for them at home and travelled to serve them. I would have praised the fact that a female Colonel had an all male subordinate group and that one male in particular served her the most loyalty and that she saved his life on more than one occasion. I would have praised that two male characters opening cried in front of others and one was comforted by a strong female. I would have enjoyed that their was more than one female villain and that the female over 300-year-old child-character was female, and I would love that their was both male and femal State Alchemists (that annoied me me, so much there being no female State Alchemists) along with many other things, such as the use of "Two girls and a boy" rather than the over-used "Two boys and a girl".

I am actually writing a fanfiction with these changes and how I wish it was the canon story of the manga.

I would explain more, but it is all in my rant and other's rants on Deviantart and I will not change my views, sorry. I am just too stubborn. I have tried my hardest to understand your views, but no-one will try to understand mine. You may look if you wish: http://naokoelric2250.deviantart.com/art/A-Rant-On-Fullmetal-Alchemist-181630838 NaokoElric2250 15:03, April 16, 2011 (UTC)