Talk:Noah

Name
It's been way too long since I've seen the movie, but where or when did anyone mention that her last name is Tomas? Surely you're not just tacking it on because of its similarity to Rose's last name... CorbeauKarasu 22:40, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

She introduced herslef to Ed and Alfons as "Noah Tomas"GODKING OF ICE CERBERUS WERE-GARURUMON 22:46, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

All right. I'll take your word for that, then. CorbeauKarasu 22:49, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

When did she introduce herself? I have CoS but I can't seem to find it. Around what time is it? Kiadony 06:39, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Seriously, she is credited as 'Noah', and her last name is never mentioned anywhere.

Unique traits
Would identical to Rosé be the only trait that can be mentioned? Long hair and dual braids seems a stretch, especially since several characters have long hair. BrokenSphere (Talk) 19:19, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Removed.  BrokenSphere  (Talk) 20:33, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

The more I think about it...
Can't we remove this page?

This character isn't particularly deep or interesting and I believe just a single mention (along with image) on Rose's page during the "Shamballa" segement would be more than sufficient. Kind of like what we did on Pride's page and there's a little section regarding "Bradley Pride" later on.

Pretty much all the "character" info on this page is just a summary of the movie and obvious descriptions that could more than easily fit on the Rose page.

Think about it, but I really don't think this character, or her idiotic baby, even need two pages dedicated solely to themselves. Tommy-Vercetti 22:24, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't the same have to be done with the other parallel world characters, i.e. Alfons Heiderich and Fritz Lang?


 * A scope debate again. BrokenSphere  (Talk) 23:14, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * You make it seem like I'm AGAINST changing those :-!
 * Any of those "characters" would be fine by me too. Hughes' Shamballa counterpart is just a small section on the Hughes page. So, unless they just play a pivotal importance to the plot of the movie (I haven't seen it so I don't know) they really don't need a full page. Maybe Noah is the most prominent, maybe it's Lang, maybe it's Alfons, whatever. But I know they all don't need a page. Tommy-Vercetti 23:16, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Any of those "characters" would be fine by me too. Hughes' Shamballa counterpart is just a small section on the Hughes page. So, unless they just play a pivotal importance to the plot of the movie (I haven't seen it so I don't know) they really don't need a full page. Maybe Noah is the most prominent, maybe it's Lang, maybe it's Alfons, whatever. But I know they all don't need a page. Tommy-Vercetti 23:16, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * I appreciate you mentioning that you haven't seen the movie. I think I'm starting to understand why we differ on something like the characters in it.


 * If the Hughes, Gracia, or Lyra counterparts had more substantial roles in the movie and had different names, the same question could be raised there too. However they don't (even the official website calls the Earth Hughes "Police Officer" and the Earth Gracia a "A lodging house landlady - see character section), whereas someone like Noah is named, but Fritz Lang isn't, while Rudolf Hoss is (odd).  However all 3 (Noah, Alfons, Lang) do play pivotal roles in the movie and their behavior in many ways is markedly different from their Amestris counterparts.  I know you don't like the 2003 series that much, but these movie-only characters are examples of the Parallel World Counterpart concept, like that or not.  You have probably noticed that I have a broad interpretation of scope, so given what's laid out there and unless that becomes more narrow (or an FMA:B wiki gets set up dealing with that and the manga continuity only) I think that they're legitimate articles in their own right.   BrokenSphere  (Talk) 02:08, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Include Chibi Party screenshot of Noah, yea or nay


Tommy-Vercetti and I disagree over whether or not this screenshot is relevant to this article. It currently appears in the Premium OVA Collection article. I believe that it's relevant because it's one of the clear sightings of Noah in the OVA and adds value to the article even though she doesn't have a speaking role in the OVA itself. Whereas he believes that the text description by itself is more than enough and that such an addition of non-canon material to a character from the 2003 continuity is pointless and unnecessary. For more detail about both arguments, see User talk:Tommy-Vercetti. I am interested in hearing other opinions as well since we're deadlocked and I for one, am not going to edit war over including this image or keeping it out. BrokenSphere (Talk) 02:35, July 20, 2011 (UTC)